Its also one of 2 stock mgs which suffers from the deathloop...and suffers from worse animations aswell which negates its 6 man perk...
Also that other mg has extremely high dps and suppression
Fix the deathloop and maybe increase suppression or DPS a little. Could also bring it down to 240 or 250 MP. Keep the firing arc the same though, because otherwise it would be a nightmare to flank nested Maxims. |
PG's and shocks are running around
Ok, I'm actually reconsidering this since Kar98 Obers are pretty close to PGs and Shocks and they would come out at similar times. But this would be a big problem in 3v3s and 4v4s though. |
have u not played vs UKF? xD
many mainline inf is difficult to dislodge in cover mate
Come on man, you know I'm talking specifically about the Obers. |
i am quite serious, but i forgot to mention to get rid of the smoke grenade until schwere.
point is to get it out earlier right?
for 340 MP, 4 dudes with k98's arent exactly OP, while PG's and shocks are running around
If they come out that early, they can easily farm veterancy. Ober squads in green cover are not easy to dislodge, and the 4x K98s are deceptively powerful. In team games this would be a nightmare. Also, the Blendkorper 2H is a veterancy ability and not a tech ability, and I like it that way to keep things unique. |
any MG can be spammed in a teamgame... vickers MG42 MG34 maxim 50 cal DSHK... just to varying degrees of effectiveness... the maxim is most certainly the least effective of them however
The only MGs I ever see spammed are Maxims and MG42s. I think this is not because of the MGs themselves, but because the Eastern Front line infantry tend to be less appealing than the Western front line infantry. Granted, this is not a balance-oriented observation. This is just a general observation based on faction design. |
Volks cost more upfront but that's all you pay for them. Cons cost less upfront because they need an extra 205mp and 20 fuel to fully kit out.
Whats more, the Mp40 upgrade grants mp40s, smoke nades, normal nades and a target size reduction while the ppsh upgrade gives only ppshs (although the slot also gives hit the dirt to all cons, upgrade not required) so if the ppsh upgrade brought more dps it wouldn't really be an issue in the interbalance because the Mp40 upgrade gives more than just dps.
Ok, alright then. Just make sure the 6x PPSH DPS isn't insane (I don't know what the DPS of the Conscript PPSH is, but it feels pretty similar to the Shock PPSH) because the last thing I want are 6 man squads with more DPS than AssGrens sprinting around and deleting squads the second you see them. |
make it so that obers can be built at the same time as MG is unlocked, and only upgrade to mg34 until scwhere is built
You can't be serious. |
plus grenade assault is superior to molly and doesnt require tech...
This is wrong. Yes, it is not a sidetech, and as an Ostheer player you have to tech up to Battlephase 1 anyway, but that's by the design of the faction. Assgrens also can't snare.
Conscripts with PPSHs also should not be able to out-DPS MP40 Volks because Volks cost more and are still not as versatile (although they do get a smoke grenade). More importantly however, MP40 Volks can't sprint. Cons with PPSHs that do more damage than dedicated MP40 squads AND can sprint would be a terrible idea. |
The PPSH upgrade is worse compared to the SVT upgrade that cost the same muni, and worse compared to the 7 man upgrade that cost 10 muni less. If these 2 upgrades are balanced in you opinion (they are in mine) then the PPSH upgrade is underperforming or too expensive for what it does.
Problem is, Cons can sprint. How do they compare versus AssGrens? If giving Cons 6 PPSHs does more damage than AssGrens, then I think it would be too much. The question is if we should compare them to 5 man AssGrens or 6 man AssGrens.
I will say I like the idea of giving them 6 PPSHs. I hate it when SMG squads don't all have the same weapon. |
No, no, he is right, we need to nerf mechanized to avoid power creep.
We will be nerfing it to the point where BG will be equally appealing choice.
But gbem wasn't asking for a nerf to mechanized, he was asking for a buff to it. Besides, what's OKW gonna do with a nerfed mechanized HQ?
Apologies if I missed the sarcasm. |