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All of these issues require some attention. people here that say the maxim is fine are incorrect. this is the only support weapon that is not supporting but is being an infantry group all by itself. people that say the maxim can be destroyed by superior german firepower fail to understand that the maxim like the mg42 are not supposed to be attacked. |
For everyone whining about Maxims...here is a video proofing that you cannot possibly suppress more than one squad with a Maxim.
Micro will allow you to suppress 2 squads but after that every other squad will be on top of your Maxim.
So the "attack move maxim" tactic can effectively be countered by an "attack move blob".
Who is with me and thinks the Maxim needs a change from a damage dealing one squad suppressing platform to an area supression weapon (like all other mgs...) with smaller damage output?
Soviets need a unit to punish blobs (and dont answer this with the katuscha...) Everyone hates blobbing and Mgs must be the way to punish blobs.
But of course we want no second MG42.
My two cents.
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This is not the first time i have seen those bushed fuck up suppression. try it on different terrain. what annoys me more about this vid is how a flank got completely nullified |
Sorry, if anything mg42s become incredibly relevant lategame because with vet3 they can completely lock down their entire cone, and deal insane damage while doing so, and the spread out deployment you usually get with the mg42 team means they're not going to get oneshot by any kind of aoe either. At vet3 they're nigh impossible to kill with just infantry, and you have these things called other units to protect them from vehicles.
As oz Said getting a mg42 to vet 3 is nearly impossible as they generally have low dps because suppressed units take less damage (no idea where the insane damage is coming from). the longer the game goes on the more AI becomes available the mgs become a liability. you may not be one shotted (through its a possibility) the mg42 and every single mg becomes far more vulnerable as the game progresses. |
I don't really find it any different to fighting Soviets.
You absolutely need the Pak 40 early imo vs them as well.
Not as quickly and the soviets have to forgo nades and at nades for his conscripts. alos the t-70 is not nearly as powerful as the aa-track. But the real balance issue is that teching to the aa track cost no mp even the soviets need to sacrifice 400 mp to reach the t-70. Combine this with a stronger early game of the us and you have an imbalance vs the ostheer.
if you ask me the teching cost of the ostheer (including its buildings) should be slashed in half when it comes to mp. |
mg42 scaling with vet is fucking amazing. It's literally the best scaling unit wehrmacht has, a single vet3 one is better than two vet0 ones. Maxim vet scaling on the other hand...doesn't really exist, you won't notice when you lose your vet crew to a riflenade. And while you're right about the traverse (on non-vet2 MG42s, anyway), you try stopping a blob of 4 units together with a maxim and come tell us how that goes. An MG42 in the same situation instasuppresses all the squads when it starts firing.
Im not talking about vet mate . you are correct that the mg42 benefits more from its vet then the maxim. We are talking how an unit perform early to late game. as infantry become better equipped tanks and vehicles appear artillery and call in artillery appear the value of the mg42 and other mg's drop drastically.
Their already have been several discussions about mg42's getting overwhelmed by bar blobs and as i said already maxims are useless against obers.
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Splash suppression: Maxim is bad at suppressing more than one squad.
Vet/Lategame scaling: It doesn't improve much with vet
Late game scaling is an issue for all mg's. and only the most open of maps would allow you to exploit the smaller suppression aoe. And to be honest the mg42 at the moment is only good at suppresing one squad because of its very slow gun traverse. |
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the maxim is over performing for cost and has no weaknesses compared to the other mg's . do not say small arch because that's the sign of severely bad micro. And with severely i mean both hands amputated level of micro.
I believe it needs a range nerf, this also fixes that the maxims can simply charge an mg42 and win. Its hilarious however that some people say they need maxims to counter OKW infantry. as far as i know you dont need maxim to counter to counter volks or sturmpioneers and maxim spam actually will fail vs obersoldaten.
Also the Luchs is at the wrong place and need to be added to the kamfgruppen truck |
Apart from a small cost increase, I'm pretty sure the E8 doesn't need a nerf. It's a powerful, doctrinal medium tank, sure, and the armor is sweet, but 640 HP leaves not a look of margin for errors. Maybe reduce its AI power a bit.
Just like any other call in it nneds some kind of tech restriction. many soviet and ost player still hang around in the lowest tiers saving up huge amount of fuel and mp and then overwhelm you with their call ins.
This makes any commander with no heavy or medium call ins slightly UP. |
I was under the impression that the Soviets compensated for that with a lot of close air support, especially as the war progressed.
As the war progressed and the germans where put on the defensive the soviet build up a huge amount of artillery of their own before an attack. and until 1944 the germans had air superiority
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If the T-34 is so awful, why did the Germans enjoy even the worst model?
T-34/76 was held in high regard and also elite units such as Panzergrenadier Division "Grossdeutschland" (Panzer Regiment "Grossdeutschland") used some captured examples as late as 1945. Waffen-SS units also did not hesitate to use captured T-34/76 tanks and 2nd SS Panzer Division "Das Reich" and 3rd SS Panzer Division "Totenkopf" pressed significant number into service. Modifications included installation of commander’s cupola (from damaged Panzerkampfwagen III and IV tanks), Schuerzen (armor skirts) and other equipment such as Notek light, storage boxes, tools, radio equipment and antenna.
Surely such elite divisions wouldn't want to use "the worst tank in WW2"?
You dont let tanks lying around and look what kind of modifications the germans made to the t-34. |
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