Profile of Hannibal

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"How to perform incompetent data analysis on tanks"


I'll make this as quick as possible, so probably bullet points will do best.

Version 1.0 as of 19.06.19
(not sure if I missed some changes of the new patch though)

What is this?
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Where did I get it from?
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But why?
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Structure of the file
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IMPORTANT! Read before you complain: Weaknesses of the calculation:
I will not put this into spoilers for obvious reasons.
Sheet 1:
- Due to my incapability of getting some data from the files (like the reference points for accuracy/penetration far/mid/near etc, this calculation will always compare performance at max range. If you compare a SU76 vs a P4, then you scew your data to the disadvantage of the SU76, as it has better accuracy and pen than used in the calculation.
- It does not take into account anti-infantry capability. So if a unit performs bad in the analysis, then ask yourself if it makes up for it in some other category, like AI, but also speed etc
- Rate of fire is a bit buggy, since there are more factors to the units than raw reload time and I don't know where to get them from. But it can be an okay-ish estimate. If you know where to find them in the Tools-App, please write me a PM.

Sheet 2:
Oh boy, where do I begin?
- no weighting of stats that might objectively be more important
- no weighting of extreme outliers (i.e. a tank with 0 damage will not be punished as hard by the model as it should be)
- negligence of marginal utility (e.g. the damage increase from 159->160is objectively better than the increase form 160->161, but the model does not account for that)
- negligence of anti infantry performance
- model quality depends on the number of stats used
- negligence of positioning/flanking and utility abilities
- negligence of alpha damage, time-to-kill etc
- negligence of collision-based hits


Sheet 1: Detailed info
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Sheet 2: Detailed info
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Download here:
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The problem is:

Many people in 4vs4 skip as allies light vehicles to get fast arty or tank out.
Also many people just camp, when they have half the map, which is also bad idea now.
--> As allies get vehicles out and push.

And it depends on the map.
On Steppe i don't care for a tiger rush for example. But you can't do that anyway there. Same on redball.

Where this tactic works well is:
liene forest, vielsam and lanzerath ambush. Because there you have a save fuel income.


But yes we need to make 1 more stuff to avoid this fast rush.
The balance team is thinking atm.

But the plan was to get away from CP needed.

Well, it's either make counters better by performance or availability (which would be horrible for the rest of the gameplay) or add additional time to the heavy tank. This could be a long build time (2-3 minutes) or additional cost by directly increasing the cost of the tank (which would make only the first tank perform cost-effective) or a side-tech that enables heavies.
I advocate for the build time. The Tiger etc are priced okay-ish to their performance. And since resource income is heavily depending on the match mode, altering the build cost will have next to no effect in 4v4 while completely screwing 1v1. Build time is equal in all modes

If there only was something as currency drops, making you pick whatever you want with time if you don't want to buy it.

So, to keep the style:
If there only was something like basic maths, making you able to calculate and back up whatever claim you make if you don't want to spread bullshit.

Sarcasm off:
To back it up:
You need 15000 supply for a standard commander, or 30 drops with 500 supply each. For one drop you need 6000 victory points or 30*6000 = 180 000 victory points in total. You earn 1750 points on average per game (50% win-rate), equals 103 played matches. If a match lasts 30 min (usually, it's probably longer), this would make it 51,5 hours of playtime. Assuming every drop is a supply drop, which it is not. Probably every 2nd to 3rd time (depending on how many items you already have) is a supply drop, since there are probably hundreds of skins and bulletins.

So please Relic, don't implement this shitty system again in CoH3.

If there only was something as currency drops, making you pick whatever you want with time if you don't want to buy it.

I do know your passive-aggressive style of writing, but before you do that, you should probably properly read the post first, otherwise it makes you look like a moron.
I covered supply drops.

The new thing is that the Tiger now has a good chance to come very early if you try to save for it.
T4 plus heavy tank costs approx 400 fuel, (15 mins with 27 fuel income, but realistically it's about 20 min) and in team games even earlier as less points are cut off and due to caches.

Earlier, it always was 13 CP, which you would not reach before ~20 min.