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Thread: Petition to Nerf/Remove Soviet Mortar Flare26 Apr 2021, 11:37 AM Jump back to quoted post26 Apr 2021, 11:31 AMAradan I suggested as compensation -1,5 sec reload speed. Look at my first post. Ah, didn't get the context of this one. I am not sure how I feel about buffing the PM41's barrage. It should be fine vs infantry and ATGs, but I fear that Axis MGs might be taken out too quickly since they take longer to pack up. On the other hand the UKF mortar pit with their double mortar does not seem to be the biggest issue either. Worth a try maybe, although I don't think the mortars need rebalancing at the moment. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Petition to Nerf/Remove Soviet Mortar Flare26 Apr 2021, 11:21 AM Jump back to quoted post26 Apr 2021, 10:42 AMAradan https://coh2.serealia.ca/#67 Reload duration on barrage ROF MP-41 3,58 sec ROF GRW34 1,25 sec So MP-41 dont have better barrage as you said? Vipper is right on that one. The reload does not matter as much because wind up/down times contribute a large chunk of the delays. The PM71 should have a ROF of about 7.3 secs, the GRW of 5.9 (my calcs). I think MMX's simulation is probably the best reference for mortar performance since it takes scatter into account. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Commander Update Beta 2021 - USF Feedback26 Apr 2021, 09:34 AM Jump back to quoted post26 Apr 2021, 09:19 AMVipper And thus the claim Easy8 "doesn't have good AT," is false which is my original point. I am not sure if/where you disagree with my point. I mostly agree with your point, I just said the original data to support that is useless because penetration values alone do not mean anything. The EZ8 has good AT vs mediums but is only mediocre vs higher armor like Panther, JP4 and Brummbar In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Commander Update Beta 2021 - USF Feedback26 Apr 2021, 09:27 AM Jump back to quoted post26 Apr 2021, 09:08 AMJohnSmith I'm not going to argue schematics of sentences, nor what can be considered similar nor what is late-game, especially not for a unit that is at the very end of a doctrinal track. So, what type of play does the EZ8 has got when it arrives 16-17 minutes? Barely 2-3 minutes of perhaps a chance of killing a medium? No wonder I haven't seen it for ages in any 2on2s, and if there were any, it just pinged against my panthers. I questioned your points not to debate semantics and definitions, but because you used them as arguments to support your points. But these support are objectively not true. It's not a specialized late game unit since it comes at a similar timing as the OKW P4. But I agree that the EZ8 will have a hard time finding a proper role with both the normal Sherman and the Jackson on the field which are not part of the rework. At 16-17 minutes it can fight mediums, which is its intended role. At 25+ you will run into Panthers, there is not much reason to build it over a Jackson. The EZ8 is just bad in the late game because the game shifts away from what it counters. Question is if we just accept that this unit will be for 1v1 and maybe a bit of 2v2 only where mediums have enough room to breath, so dedicated medium counters are viable. Or if we want this unit to be viable in all modes. Jump back to quoted post26 Apr 2021, 09:07 AMEsxile Why would you build a tank that is only good to fight mediums when you can, for the same price, build a tank that is good vs medium and heavy tanks. It is not only the combo M4A3 / Jackson that is good, its the logic of building a sherman to punish infantry while able to defend itself vs medium (with the appropriate support) and then build a Jackson to fight anything armored. Questions anyone should answer are: Why would you build a M4A3 then a Ez8? Why would you build a Ez8 first and then a M4A3 or Jackson? Why would you build a Jackson and then a Ez8? Agree with that, the EZ8 will probably not have a real niche. One solution could be to make it just a bigger version of the normal Sherman, similar to how both T34s work now. But for this purpose it needs better AI. It could also be good to give it a stun shot similar to the StuG, which lets it scale better against heavier armor. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Commander Update Beta 2021 - USF Feedback26 Apr 2021, 08:59 AM Jump back to quoted post26 Apr 2021, 08:47 AMJohnSmith Yes, thank you, I am aware, hence me saying "akin" (... which should pack quite a punch with a cost akin to a panther to a mid-game tank ...), with a clear relationship to the EZ8's late-game appearance. I wouldn't rate a tank that is ~20% cheaper in all categories even if you take the balance preview changes into account as (very)similar/akin to tank XYZ. I'd also not necessarily call it a late game unit, since you can get it around the 16-17 minute mark. You can make it to that time without being forced to build a medium tank beforehand. And given that its currently only role is to kill mediums, it will only shine while mediums are the strongest unit on the field, which is not the late game either. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Commander Update Beta 2021 - USF Feedback26 Apr 2021, 08:42 AM Jump back to quoted post26 Apr 2021, 08:26 AMVipper Chance to to perpetrate: Easy8 vs Panzer J 66%/70%/85% Panzer j vs Easy8 51%/53%/58% Easy8 has a clear advantage over Panzer J even if PzIV has slightly more armor, it even has a HP advantage. Yes, this is some of the data you should have given, the pen values themselves do not help. But you also can't neglect other stock units. The P4 has a mid-long range chance of ~70% to penetrate a Sherman and 100% for the Jackson once it gets in range. EZ8 ranges between 65-75% depending on target and range (about 75% if you get in close to about 15 meters) vs OKW tanks and 65-90% vs Ostheer units at similar ranges. The EZ8 also shoots about 0.7 secs slower. The 5 meter range advantage that is currently planned should therefore allow it to get the second shot off at roughly the same time as the P4. Of course it has an advantage vs other mediums, that's its whole purpose. Jump back to quoted post26 Apr 2021, 08:28 AMJohnSmith I don't get it, why are we now comparing a late-game doctrinal unit which should pack quite a punch with a cost akin to a panther to a mid-game tank? EZ8 has much lower cost than the Panther, even in the preview. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Commander Update Beta 2021 - USF Feedback26 Apr 2021, 07:54 AM Jump back to quoted post26 Apr 2021, 03:00 AMApplejack Snip The EZ8 is the brawler tank that USF otherwise does not get. 5 shots and >200 armor give it a clear anti medium role. Where it falls short a bit is that there is not that much benefit outside of mediums. The AoE is decently worse so there is no real off-duty use vs infantry. Against Panthers I don't know if it is worth the marked up price, you'd usually be better off with a jackson in that regard. Especially given that the USF ATG eats a ton of mun to be effective late game. I can see usage for it in 1v1 and maybe 2v2, in 3v3 I'd probably stick with a Jackson in any case. Jump back to quoted post26 Apr 2021, 06:40 AMVipper Easy8 Penetration near 200 Penetration mid 165 Penetration far 155 PzIV J Penetration near 125 Penetration mid 115 Penetration far 110 Pen values do not mean anything. You should not post them without any context, especially if you compare Axis and Allied units. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Petition to Nerf/Remove Soviet Mortar Flare26 Apr 2021, 06:18 AM Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2021, 17:35 PMthedarkarmadillo mortar flare could probably find itself behind vet again imo, its a pretty strong ability. Yes, that one sounds reasonable, too. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Petition to Nerf/Remove Soviet Mortar Flare25 Apr 2021, 15:11 PM Unit flares are fine for the most part. Maybe some could do with some tweaks towards range and linger time, but overall they are okay. I have no strong feelings about the Soviet mortar flare though. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Commander Update Beta 2021 - Ostheer Feedback24 Apr 2021, 19:12 PM Thinking about this, why not give Osttruppen "Hit the dirt"? Either as a toggle or a timed ability, and maybe with slightly different modifiers. But at least that ability would finally be on a squad where it is design wise fitting and potentially useful. In: COH2 Balance