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Thanks serrith for explaining what I was trying to say better than I could. I was getting frustrated and it wasn't helping me say what I meant.

Not necessarily but it would greatly improve the survival of the sniper.
But outside that sprint would be OP vs snipers as well (oorah as well) if you have no means to stop infantry movement.

I'm not sure reduced movement is the best way to go

What, like Rear Echelons getting it for free at vet 3?

Or Pfusis getting it as part of their anti infantry package?

Yeah, I can see how much of a 'trade off' is needed to make those units balanced. Truly, these upgrades taketh as much as they giveth.

RE 5th man is earned. If you lose your squad that is it. No more 5th man. It doesn't raise the floor it is a ceiling. There is a huge difference

And yes. The fussies are a decent example as it is a choice that Removes the option for 2 Shreks. It's a decision the player has to make and once they make it there is no going back. You can't take the extra Man AND double sling AT too. It's a tactical decision.

Same with grens even. The 5th man removes the option to get the lmg42 which centralizes their DPS so even as they drop models they are able to keep the pressure up. A choice.

Notice what doesn't have a drawback? Bolster.
The Soviet 7th man has many buffs provided but it either costs SUBSTANTIALLY more or requires a full tech and THEN takes up their only weapon slot. You have a few choices to make there.

Yeah it's not like dropping 35 fuel on it isn't a trade off in itself.

Why bother with anything then? There is actually more to this game than just costs. Or there is supposed to be. The fact of the matter is you can buy 25% more dps and health and appearently thr only way to balance that is to make it so the unit isn't viable unless you do. That's bad design. That's very very bad design.

I'm not saying that Tommies/UKF/bolster don't need any changes, but this is quite irrelevant. Sturmpioneers are a 300mp close range unit, they are meant to beat 270mp rifle infantry. Even Riflemen that are 280mp and a close/mid range orientated squad will almost always lose to Sturmpioneers closing in.

And Tommies are 270mp long range unit designed to excel in cover. As a member of the balance team it's a bit alarming that you are flat out saying "it doesn't matter if you are using the unit EXACTLY as it's intended to do and the enemy is using NONE of the tactical features like cover or vision and are supposed to win because their unit costs 10% more.

At what point are Tommies supposed to be able to win, if not under ideal circumstances and with the enemy doing nothing at all to reduce incoming damage?

Can we get a statement on the record as to if the direction of the balance team is to ensure that the only variables that matter in infantry combat what so ever going forward is cost?

Is this going to start applying to vehicles as well? Will a p4 driven in reverse (because no attempts what so ever to reduce incoming damage while at the same time making a mockery of core game mechanics) lose outright to a t34/76? Keeping in mind there is a decent cost difference in play here.


No. If the sturms were closing in yellow cover at even partially I would buy this reasoning but not closing head on against a squad that that is dug in and is SUPPOSED to excel under those very static restrictions.

7man upgrade is simply the most cost effective upgrade in the game.

kinda has to be given how late it shows up or it wouldnt generate value.

same for IS vs volks they are better at range, i dont get ur point, are u saying that VA is better simply cause unit who wears cross instead of star uses it ? just for ur knowldge, commado have superd dps mpving and they get elite bren (mg 34) that can fire on the move, sapper have only 1 less dps than ass green on the move and can be equipped with bren, IS are better at range than volks

so no VA is a straight worse ability than commando assault as it does not have a free MAP WIDE recon

ps if u are asking how sapper have almost the same moving dps as ass green is cause they have a 1.0 moving accuracy multiplayer instead of 0.75


to further make u understand, VA gives 0.25 bonus acc and set posture speed to 1 , commando assault gives 0.25 bonus accuracy and set posture speed to 1 + MAP WIDE RECON PASS, both cost 70 munitions

VA should cost 50-60 mun or get a recon too, or even let falls reinforce from anywhere for the duration

Read the words.
The units effected by VA are simply better both at range an on the move (both)
Tommies are good at range but NOT on the move and sappers are good on the move but NOT at range. Commandos can be both, but it is very costly as it requires unlocking the racks, then double arming them ontop of the cost of the glider and commando.

Again if you read the words, you would see I stipulated that if they were identical abilities VA would have a higher impact due to the reasons mentioned above.
Panther and p4 used to have the same vet but both blitz and the armour bonus got greatly reduced on the panther because higher stats are improved more by percentage based buffs. This is no different. The units effected by VA are of a higher caliber than those effected by assault or for mother Russia and that's not even disputable.