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Thread: AVRE vs SturmTiger 22 Jul 2020, 19:26 PM Jump back to quoted post22 Jul 2020, 16:25 PMWiderstreit Sturmtiger is THE unit to give OKW some kind of middle-range mobile arty, a mobile weak B4 howitzer. It shot rockets with 5.650 m range, while Avre had around 100 m. Nerf it a little bit and give it 90 range. Also, Avre it little bit too strong. 90 range? Don't take this the wrong way here.... But are you high? That would be beyond crazy and beyond balance. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: T-34 Ram22 Jul 2020, 13:55 PM Jump back to quoted post22 Jul 2020, 11:35 AMKyle I have play against top 2vs2 and I hate ramming because it is so much bullshit: - I plant mines on ramming path = failed because Katchusa will detonate them. - Sherck will damage T34 but not able to stop it, if I faust the T34 but that tank is already in ramming animation will not stop because of damage engine or anything. Please don't tell me " uh huh why don't you damage the engine before it ram first ": It's not like the enemy tank coming with 1 T34 only, they got ISU-152 and bunch of infantry that going along with that T34 ramming. In order to stop a Ram, I got 2 choices: Using 1 of my tank to block the ramming path OR manage to damage the Engine before it can start ramming ability. FFS doesn't matter how much I hold the map 1 T34 ram boi + 200 muni bomb = goodbye my Elefant. Combined arms OP. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Are sections balanced?22 Jul 2020, 13:54 PM What's even funnier about tommies is even in green cover sturms can charge them across open ground and win. The best defensive troops around and they can't defend against an enemy starting engineer in their best case scenario. Tommies are such a mess... They trade well where they arnt supposed to and flat out lose where they are supposed to be stalwart. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: AVRE vs SturmTiger 22 Jul 2020, 13:48 PM Jump back to quoted post22 Jul 2020, 11:22 AMullumulu I like how u tried to troll me...find no quotes from me to prove your trolling and go away with this now. ST is bad in so many way compared to AVRE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftPqr1T1YC4&t=2578s Normally I'd argue that this is just an example of bad rng. However this is actually basically my experience when using and the few times since it's neutering that I have seen the ST. it'll clip this or that and even a squad hit on a beat up unit won't result in a wipe. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: AVRE vs SturmTiger 22 Jul 2020, 10:38 AM Jump back to quoted post21 Jul 2020, 18:48 PMSander93 And it can't be rebalanced within realistic terms either. It has gotten a lot of QoL buffs lately and it's good enough for casual play now. There's not much more that can be done within Relic's current scope of no major changes. Similar to a unit like the B4, it will just never be competitive due to its nature. The way it was + a little extra firing time would be acceptable. Then it requires and rewards leading your enemy and the counter play would be scouting. In its current form the enemy doesn't really have to do anything to avoid getting hurt badly by it. The enemy being able to see it long before it fires while it also being unable to track and broadcasting where it's going to fire is a recipe for hot garbage.. The only feasible change I could see to the live version as a QOL change would be to add redflares to show where it's going to shoot as a means to underline that the unit should not be used. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: AVRE vs SturmTiger 21 Jul 2020, 14:48 PM I do agree with this thread. The stumtiger is a good example of hot trash. It never should have been in the game to begin with but since it's here it should have some use... The old one that you could lead shots and ambush and what not was actually worth building. This one is certainly not. I mean. The old one was good enough it was mutually exclusive with the KT the new one isn't and I still haven't seen one in ages. People pick for the 221/223 and heat not the ST. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Are sections balanced?20 Jul 2020, 16:43 PM Jump back to quoted post20 Jul 2020, 15:07 PMT.R. Stormjäger Yeah, except if you put them in a match and compare the performance of 7man shrek cons and 5man LMG42 Grens vs PIATs 5man Tommies and BRENs 5man Tommies, the former are better. Solely because they got gutted to accommodate their shit awful design decision to make bolster a global. I recall vividly when tommies were just straight up better grens at 4 men and monsters at 4. Now they are a joke as 4 men and alright with 5. That's exactly the point in trying to make. Either 4 men are trash so 5 men are balanced or 4 men are worth the cost and 5 man tips them way over the edge. You can't reasonably balance such a power spike. Cons extra model either comes from a full tech or 3 combined side techs and 2 buildings THEN takes a munitions cost AND their only weapon slot and it still had to be toned down by removing the cover bonus and lowering the reinforcement bonus. Increasing model count is such a colossal upgrade its hard to balance and has caused nothing but problems balancing tommies from the word go. Also brems got heavily nerfed because--go figure 5 man double lmg infantry with elite target size and bonus durability in cover was fucking Overpowered. Again a result of the global 5 man upgrade In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Are sections balanced?20 Jul 2020, 15:00 PM didnt read the whole thread but tommis will never ever ever EVER be balanced while there is a 25% global power spike variable. hell, its impact is even greater than a 25% chance due to slowed dps drop and models spreading damage further reducing the chance of bursting models. the ONLY way we will be able to balance tommies is by divorcing the bolster upgrade aspect from the base unit. make it a seperate upgrade that takes up 1 slot. make medics/ pyro take up 1 slot. buff brens. boom. now you have a huge number of viable tommie compositions that all require thought into what composition you want. do you want durability or firepower? what about utility? the numbers are debatable with this kind of change of course but as long as bolster is a global we will always have the problem of either bolster being too juicy to ever pass up (if 4 man tommies are worth the cost) or bolster being absolutely required (because the unit is balanced and priced for 5 man) imagine if just by teching up cons or grens got their extra models instead of having to plan for it with notsble trade offs. 7 man shreked cons? 5 man grens with an mg42? thats bolstered tommies.... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: SU-76M20 Jul 2020, 00:42 AM Jump back to quoted post20 Jul 2020, 00:26 AMSerrith I would not be opposed to giving the Su-76 a smoke barrage. The soviets have a real lack of smoke options(only 2 including doctrines). thats a cool idea. i like that idea In: COH2 Balance
Thread: SU-76M19 Jul 2020, 23:33 PM Jump back to quoted post19 Jul 2020, 21:29 PMKatitof That's not going to happen, 7th man would need to arrive much sooner then it does, because T-70 needs to overcompensate for poor early game scaling of infantry. Tbh that wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. If the power bump came from 7 man instead of the T70 we might see some su76s or quads out and about instead of just the T70. Power bump is still a power bump so idk if it needs to come from the T70 specifically. However a sooner 7 man would need maybe for the mp reduction to be delayed till t4 possibly but it's something Tha could be played with In: COH2 Balance