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Thread: State of heavy tanks.22 Oct 2020, 22:58 PM Jump back to quoted post22 Oct 2020, 22:43 PMKatitof He thinks its the gun that makes KV-1 win vs P4, not the armor and health advantage. That's the key difference. And KV-1 got anything BUT a decent gun. In fact, its the worst medium tank tier gun in the whole game to engage other vehicles with, so no, its not decent nor adequate. Definition of adequate 1 : sufficient for a specific need or requirement If KV-1's gun is enough to kill a PzIV than by definition it is adequate. Jump back to quoted post22 Oct 2020, 22:43 PMKatitof Also, example of KV-8 further underlines that its exclusively durability advantage, because KV-8, using its 45mm meme gun can also beat P4 in a slugfest. Once more you seem clueless since the 45mm gun is an AT gun and actually has better penetration close value than the KV-1 one who has a dual purpose gun. If it can beat a PzIV with it is not meme gun. Jump back to quoted post22 Oct 2020, 22:43 PMKatitof You have argument out of this, because that particular specimen will do everything and anything to try to spin narrative using twisted semantic games to "prove" his point even if its complete and utter bs. Once more projecting your own flaws to others. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: State of heavy tanks.22 Oct 2020, 22:52 PM Jump back to quoted post22 Oct 2020, 22:07 PMKatitof Oh please, will you ever stop this bullshit? KV-1 wins P4 because it has massive health and armor compared to it. It outlasts it. If KV-1 had enough firepower to take on P4, then so would T-34/76, because they have pretty much exact same firepower with irrelevant differences, but somehow T-34 loses, that means its NOT firepower that allows KV-1 to beat P4. Exact same thing with Churchill, but it actually good decent gun and even more EHP. We've had this discussion already, you've made equally retarded and incorrect point back then. Oh please, will you ever stop all of your bullshit? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: State of heavy tanks.22 Oct 2020, 21:51 PM Jump back to quoted post22 Oct 2020, 21:24 PMSander93 This is not true. The generalist heavy tanks do not have high rear armor, and most superheavies have low rear armor too. The Tiger and the IS-2 have 140 and the Pershing has 110. The KV-2 has 120. Low enough for a medium to reliably penetrate even at longer range, and with around an 85-100% chance to pen at point blank range. The Tiger II has 150 and the Elefant, Sturmtiger and Jagdtiger have 110. There are a few exceptions: namely the KV-1, ... But the first two are meant to be tanky and don't have that much offensive power,... The KV-1 has enough offensive power power to take out the OKW PzIV easily with roughly the same cost. And the Churchill can take out a PzIV even when flanked point blank. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: State of heavy tanks.22 Oct 2020, 21:45 PM Jump back to quoted post22 Oct 2020, 21:16 PMelchino7 ?? .. Su85: 1.4s RoF nerf. Accuracy/Pen buff. Target size reduced, +2 rotation, Cost increase, pop increase. The unit went from 4.0s/2.8s/2.24s vs 5.4/5.4/4.32 Add to both the 0.26 in ready/aim times for full RoF. .... The accuracy buff, target size reduction, rotation buffs are far more important than the the ROF nerf when fighting mediums. Generally speaking the accuracy of FF/M36/SU-85/JP are so high that they have nearly 100% chance to damage even at range close 60 and especially once vetted. That makes mediums targets for gaining XP in the late game. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: State of heavy tanks.22 Oct 2020, 20:28 PM Jump back to quoted post22 Oct 2020, 19:47 PMelchino7 ... Most TDs got nerfed against mediums (mostly RoF) so, no it's not that "TD boost" destroyed medium play. Medium play has not been the main way to play 3v3+ for quite a long time. ... The m36 got buffed vs both mediums and heavies The SU-85 at vet 0 probably got buffed vs both medium and heavies maybe at vet 2 it might be slitly better vs mediums. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: breakthrough equipment 22 Oct 2020, 19:16 PM Jump back to quoted post22 Oct 2020, 16:34 PMKoRneY With the heavy nerf these pios are critical to keeping your Ace on the field. It gets an absolute beating if you want to actually use it to it's best. Ok then allow a separate upgrade for repairs but make satchel and destroy cover available to all pioneers. In: Lobby
Thread: breakthrough equipment 22 Oct 2020, 19:14 PM This thread is about breakthrough equipment and I would ask for people who like to talk about the KT, Churchill, Panther or other thing do so in another thread. There is another thread actually running here: https://www.coh2.org/topic/106741/state-of-heavy-tanks In: Lobby
Thread: Sander's personal balance changes22 Oct 2020, 13:27 PM Jump back to quoted post22 Oct 2020, 12:48 PMJibberJabberJobber Air-Dropped Medical Supplies: Air-dropped crates from 3 to 2. Cost from 30 to 20 munitions. Other solution might include: Transports now can carry the med kits Medkit are not instantly used by Pioneer and Grenadier but instead "replace" the normal medic for one use. Jump back to quoted post22 Oct 2020, 12:48 PMJibberJabberJobber Incendiary bombs: Flame bombs will land in a circle instead of a line (like the Soviet Incendiary Barrage). This the problem is not with shape but with that weapon profile modifiers did not have its damage updated and thus it does far to less damage (I think mortar half truck also) Jump back to quoted post22 Oct 2020, 12:48 PMJibberJabberJobber Strategic Reserves Flare cost from 60 to 50 munitons Flare could become a Soviet mortar clone and cost 30. Jump back to quoted post22 Oct 2020, 12:48 PMJibberJabberJobber Storm Doctrine Riegel mine replaced with Counterattack Tactics Riegel could use some changes such as lower time to plant and/or be available to more units maybe AT pgs? Jump back to quoted post22 Oct 2020, 12:48 PMJibberJabberJobber German Mechanized Mechanized Grenadier Group replaced with Mechanized Assault Group. Imo the mechanized group could be changed to: Can now also be built from HQ and/or Now comes with a repair team (there is one in game files) or with German tank crew that are like pioneer but have superior repair speed and/or Can now set up and become and 1-2 pioneer spwan that automatically repair. Think these changes fit the thematically. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: breakthrough equipment 22 Oct 2020, 10:47 AM Jump back to quoted post22 Oct 2020, 09:53 AMKatitof Super Heavy tank also exists stock for OKW, can we have stock IS-2 and pershing too? How other things do things and what they have is completely irrelevant. You look for internal faction balance and assign abilities based on the army, not based on what others have. PLS stop quoting if what you are going to say is completely irrelevant to what you are quoting. This time I will explain to you what I have posted because you seem had trouble with your reading comprehension. 1) "Not that agree with moving them to PG" That part of the sentence mean that I do not agree with moving satchel to PG, so stop responding as if I have suggested that it should be moved to PG. 2)"but they kind of already exist to tommies with heavy gammon bomb and with Penals" This part is direct response to what I have quoted Goldenpunch who wrote: "No way to give satchels to mainline/elite infantry." I have simply point out that the argument hold no water at all because satchel already exist to "mainline/elite infantry" Unfortunately I do not have the time to explain everything to you so pls next time read post until you fully understand them before responding, it my take up to 10 times or even more so be patient. I know that arguing with me is your favorite past time but unfortunately explain reading comprehension to you is not mine, so pls next time you feel an urge for it resist it. In: Lobby
Thread: breakthrough equipment 22 Oct 2020, 09:44 AM Jump back to quoted post22 Oct 2020, 09:24 AMGoldenpunch Really ? You want satchels for grens/pgrens ? Do you want also throwing satchels to track of vehicle like at upgraded penals ? LOL. No way to give satchels to mainline/elite infantry. Not that agree with movign them to PG but they kind of already exist to tommies with heavy gammon bomb and with Penals... In: Lobby