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Jump back to quoted post6 Oct 2022, 15:22 PMGachiGasm

Ostheer despite having same crap load of commanders, doesn't suffer from it. Sure it has meta commanders, which are just almost always a better option (just like soviets), but almost all of them can be picked and played without the feeling that you are intentionally handicapping yourself.

Jump back to quoted post6 Oct 2022, 13:30 PMVipper

One could start by removing mark target from Mechanized Support Tactics and Guard Motor Coordination Tactics (and moving the ability to two other weaker commanders) while adding a powerful late game off map to Partisan.

During redesign I had also suggested giving them access to doctrinal PAk 40.

That would probably be enough.

Jump back to quoted post6 Oct 2022, 03:30 AMSwitzerland

Yea I don’t mind it’s inclusion and it’s not just me, and there are people that don’t. I doubt everyone is going to be happy but I don’t see anything conclusive about this fiction compared to previous fictional representations, and relic states that in their of dev commentary. I mean we can argue against realities that some units got a re written past and yes it includes the sturmtiger and the JT and the KT if you like but I’m glad to hear relic won’t be arguing that they didn’t see some generous takes on their real life deployments and relic has a grasp on that.

Jump back to quoted post5 Oct 2022, 14:57 PMVipper

Conscript have start with received accuracy of 1.09 which is the worse for Soviet units
CE, Penal, Partisan all start with received accuracy of 1.



While being far cheaper, available earlier and having cloack.


Their utility includes:
They are excellent scouts with extra vision and cloak
They are dirty cheap and ideal for ambush with cloak/mines/grenades/and concussion traps
They can become Ambush AT units with tank detection/mine/snare and shreck
Two grenades both DOT and HE
They can heal other units or themselves
They can lay wire

Their increased molotov range at vet3 is worse compared to cons throwing speed vet, the animation takes so long that the range buff isn't as helpful.


Ambush bonus applies to Shreck also so they do not really miss the much once at vet2.

Tank hunter partisan did not get reload bonus they used to get 10% penetration bonus.

In sort the unit is cost efficient and remains useful though out the game either as an AT unit or a scout/ (ambush unit) and simply do not "scale horrendously". As I pointed the unit simply can not carry the commander.

Jump back to quoted post4 Oct 2022, 11:35 AMrumartinez89

I think it has more to do with better options being available. For me, the two strongest abilities are radio intercept and mark target. For Radio Intercept, there are other commanders that all seem to be better top to bottom. Advance warfare gives you T3485 along with PPSH and loiter, infantry repair is ok but your army is mostly cons anyways so it has use. Armored Assault gets you T3485/IS2/Repairs/Loiter which is all useful but lategame focused while NKVD gets you AT Overwatch/Commissar/Scorched Earth. In 1v1, NKVD is quite powerful as the commissar synergizes well with T1 start and AT overwatch is godly.

Looking at Mark Target, the other two commanders that get it have Guards which synergize well along with a tank upgrade. Guard Motor top to bottom is better in everyway while Mechanized Support can be difficult to counter in team games.

Looking at the rest of the commander, the abilities seem to be lacking. Partisans feel like slightly better cons to start but quickly fall off as their VET is fairly bad. IF you want an infiltration squad, Airborne Guards are in two significantly better commanders. Airborne get PPSH for free while also having 6th man/significantly better VET and only have to wait one more command point. SPY Network is nice but got nerfed to only help the USER not the team so anything with some type of recon is better for the team in team games. Finally, Anti-Tank Gun ambush is extremely meh for a command point in such a weak commander. Maybe if it had been swapped out for Tank-Hunter Ambush it could have lead some strong synergy with the other abilities.