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Thank you for the tips. I'll watch the replay again soon to get a reminder of the situation etc.

in a perfect world they will match up low rank randoms with only high rank arranged teams so eventually they will either learn to not build fuel caches within the first two minutes or play versus AI until they figure out how to retreat their squads

Balance on the release was special, but I mean, a lot of the stuff was patched out pretty quickly by relic.

I guess, if you want to play truly "old fashion" game, you could try looking for a patch right before WFA release.

Game was pretty balanced, with some rough edges (like double soviet sniper) and required just a little bit more fixes, but WFA messed it up.

Well, I got my metaphorical hands on Version 3.0.0.9-something (through dubiously legal means, though it shouldn't really matter because I already paid for the game anyways) and I have to say that I feel pretty embarassed now, because it seems that the mod wasn't really that accurate to the game at release at all..

Tanks are much faster in this version than in the mod (the mod made me think that originally CoH2 had clunky and slow tanks, which imo would have been better design but I digress). Tanks are cheaper on manpower and more fuel expensive. All my experiences with the COH2013 mod effectively amount to those of someone's alternate history project.

I had ought to ask the mods to hide this thread out of pure shame

Extremely early. Extremely might not even do it justice, i wanna say ppl could get a 34/76 out in 7-8 minutes. Maybe faster tbh, its been a while

Quick question; I can't tell if this is the mod being unfinished or not but... T1/T2 and T3/T4 are not mutually exclusive in the COH2013 mod. But I had heard that that was how the game was originally balanced.

Is this maybe something that came shortly after release? Or is it just unfinished mod stuff.

EDIT: They aren't mutually exclusive, but you have to build T3 before T4, which cost 100 and 110 fuel, respectively.

Original Tiger Ace was 100% free and it froze your fuel and manpower income for as long as it was alive, so people used it for an all-in push.... which worked most of the times because back then the Tiger Ace could easily solo three SU-85s: it had very high armor and SU85 pen back then was not good, it had seemingly endless HP, and the PaK40 stunshot ability on top of the very lethal vet 3 performance with Blitzkrieg and smoke. If they had let's say a couple Panthers or P4s on the field at the time the Tiger Ace arrived, it was pretty much a guaranteed win.

Didn't it start with vet 3 as well? Vet 3 panthers already took like 16 shots from the ZiS-3 to die, so I can only imagine how the Tiger Ace was.

You could buy veterancy too, that is correct. 80mp and 25 fuel for enough veterancy to turn a fresh gren squad immediately into vet 3. Funnily enough this could also be used to buy veterancy for your (OKW) teammates and OKW veterancy was very OP in the first years of that faction.

Definitely really good. Though I don't even know if it would be particularly worth considering that they can disappear in moments from a mortar XD.

If this was a CP 0 ability though... yeah that would be REALLY op.

The T-34 was in t3 back then so you could bring it on the field before the Ostheer player even got his building out to construct pak 40s or panzergrens... you just couldn't spam infantry with that doctrine, but you didn't need to anyway.

Yeah, I figured that it would probably be the fact that it came out so early rather than the fact that they could make a lot of them. The hit to manpower is actually a lot more impactful than one would assume going off of today's balance, I think. B/C tanks were very expensive in manpower from what I saw. But yeah, T34 coming out that early likely meant that it could go all the way to OST's base and there's nothing they could do about it (I didn't see OST engineers with any AT mines..)

Granted, even with the fuel increase, I imagine that T2 being built wouldn't be that far off, but that doesn't matter when the T34 can literally come into the base and kill the engineers while they build the structure lmao.