Why should they against grens who also aren't in cover?
There is a MASSIVE cost difference between the two. If grens would stand up to bolstered dual bren sections, you know how it would be called? Imbalance which would require massive section buffs or massive gren nerfs.
I suppose you have no problems with volks roflstomping cons for 10mp more alone.
Why should they against grens who also aren't in cover?
Aheem, meh, Grammar !
What is your suggestion for Conscripts then?
Conscripts fulfill the role of support although they do feel a need to get an upgrade.
Here is my proposal for Conscripts and Grens (just for diversity sake)
The Doctrine for Cons getting PPSH was produced from 1941-1947, only until 1944 they were able to produce in far larger quantities. Types of box magazine had an impact on PPSH41. The more popular magaizine were the drum magazines.
Drum Magazines were not produced until 1944.
Conscripts should get the PPD40 requiring them more often to reload in comparison to Shocktroops who got the Drum Mags. It was not until the end of the war that 55% of its army had PPD40.
Still, I think it is justified to say Conscripts should get it. Limited to 3 or 4 units the PPD40 for 60 or more ammo. Should be worse than the doctrine version. Reload should be more frequent also.
The quality and thickness of the mag contributed to its performance. Having sometimes experience problems and certain failures. Conscripts should get it but worse than the proper PPSH41. Makes sense. Although they were not produced in massive quantites in comparison, for the sake of diversity would be certainly interesting.
So yeah, they should get the PPD by default but maybe a worse version since cheaper mags were easier to build, easier to manufacture and produce in mass quantites would fit the ideal weapon for Conscripts. If it is too much the PPD. Give Conscripts PPSH41 with stick mag. As explained how it should previously, more reload times, less effective than doctrine PPSH41 Drum Mag.
Better Equipment were put into to stock for elite/special forces.
Now German G43
G43 was introduced 1943 which was later than PPSh productions. It was given to grenadiers in service but not as many as intended. Around 30 G43 were introduced per each company, so it would be the similar with the distribution of MG42 (but MG42 served ferociously during the war).
Roughly 10 out of 30 were scoped while the 20 were iron sights.
So to introduce upgrade for having G43 upgrade is not a bad idea. The weapon was good quality. Good quality took more time. G43 is exceptional. So it would be nice for grens to have by default another upgrade option, G43.
2 G43 options actually.
1./ 60 ammo for 1 "Scoped G43". Similar to that of JLI but worse. Should be very accurate and take 5-6 sec per shot being always precise dealing 16 damage. Cover will RA is ignored but does not ignore green cover damage reduction. Does not shoot any faster the closer the enemy is. Loses, close-mid advantages and fire rate advantages
2./ Same as the doctrine. 60 ammo. Excel faster in close and mid ranges for "2 G43 with iron sights". Keeps movement. Improves move accuracy. Loses some long range accuracy but improve close to medium range. Rate of fire also improved.
This makes hell a lot of sense. It would be even more ridiculous to give every grenadier G43.
So grenadiers will have overall 3 weapon options. Can only pick 1 of the 3. Grens weapon options are 1./ "Scoped G43 (1 only) 2./ "G43 iron sights" 2 provided 3./ MG42.
This will increase style of play for grens. Varying in diversity and very situational.
SU went for mass quantities, cheaper production and cost efficient.
GER went for quality and quantity.
So this whole idea is indeed flawless. Would not make sense at all replacing MG42 with G43 btw. Did some research.
I suggested also repair package specifically for Conscripts and Panzergrenadiers. Since both factions have repairing and having currently only one option to deal with their problems. Both will have upgrade option called "Support Package". Similar to what they have currently in their doctrines would be great. Should be worse than their current pios and engineers but at least something that would help deal with this issue!
So Conscripts will have 1./ PPSH41 with stick mag upgrade for 3-4 units (weapon model should be worse than the current doctrine version) 2./ Support Package. 3./ Oraah revamp
I was thinking of
revamping "Oraah" a bit. They can help close gaps which we can all say is rather rather highly advantageous. I was thinking giving it also some disadvantage/defect bonuses. Maybe decrease overall efficiency output or increase received accuracy. Maybe both but minor or intermediate effect changes would appeal.!
OR 2nd Oraah choice
Take sprint away for more increased fire rate and faster reload speed but slows movement and increases received accuracy.
What do you think!