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Thread: Propagandacast small arms fake news. 12 Jul 2019, 12:55 PM
Yeah I was going to say thats likely due to Russia building insane amounts of weapons, which have floated around many parts of the world quite freely, as opposed to German weapons, a western nation, much more highly regulated and generally updated with more modern versions.
Thread: Propagandacast small arms fake news. 12 Jul 2019, 09:07 AM
11 Jul 2019, 14:31 PMGI John 412
What Im trying to get at, is that machine guns have good suppresion in part because of their inaccuracy, this is evident by the beaten zone, which is a desirable trait for a fire support weapon.
Some weapons would have smaller beaten zones, and provide less suppression over a wider area. I would call that a more accurate weapon.
A HMG which is designed to have a larger beaten zone, I would call less accurate by design.
Thread: Propagandacast small arms fake news. 11 Jul 2019, 12:26 PM
11 Jul 2019, 11:39 AMGI John 412
Of course you can, HMGs are mostly designed to be 'inaccurate', in that they saturate a decent sized area with rounds, rather than a small patch. This is how you suppress a large area, quickly and easily.
Much of the time this is being done at very large ranges, you mostly cant even see the enemy, there is no 'target' to direct accurate fire towards. Your target will be something like a corner of some woods, or an area of a hill, or even some dead ground you cannot see.
A HMG which randomly places rounds all over that area and quickly, is going to keep the heads down of any enemy much more than a weapon placing rounds in a more predictable pattern.. thats why it can be true, and relevant, to say a weapon is too accurate.
Thread: Propagandacast small arms fake news. 11 Jul 2019, 11:27 AM
11 Jul 2019, 11:17 AMKasarov
Exactly, I dont know what Danes words were, but if hes saying Bren was too accurate for section level suppresion tool, hes probably right. Its not nessecarily a wrong comment, maybe just not in context.
Thread: Propagandacast small arms fake news. 11 Jul 2019, 10:27 AM
11 Jul 2019, 08:37 AMGI John 412
There is a lot of context missing there, it is true that a Bren was NOT going to supress a group of infantry at range anywhere near as well as a propper HMG.
Any true HMG does two things, puts down a LOT of rounds, and does so with a "beating patern", which causes suppression over a decently large area. With more accurate weapons like a Bren, you could suppress a small area sure, but maybe not a larger area covering 10-20 infantry or more.
This was pretty much same problem with the more recently used British LSW (Light support weapon - just a long barreled SA80), it was deployed at section level with the role of fire support for flanking manouvers, however again just being a longer barreled version of the standard assault rifle, it only really added extra accuracy, no increase in rate of fire or spread of bullets. So it worked closer to a sniper type weapon, giving more concentrated fire than an actual MG, which was supposed to be its intended role.
This is LSW:
Which has been replaced by Minimi, which address the issues above:
I dont know what Dane was saying about Bren accuracy, but I dont doubt that it wouldnt perform suppression dutys as well as a propper MG due to being too accurate. That doesnt mean it wasnt a good gun, or well liked.
Thread: Churchill + Jackson impossible to defeat without Elephants27 Jun 2019, 04:36 AM
Your not supposed to spam panthers, it's not intended to work (unless they are spamming mediums, which is rare).
It's nearly always going to fall flat against tank destroyers. Not least because your wasting all your fuel on something which won't help Vs superior allied infantry.
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Thread: Churchill + Jackson impossible to defeat without Elephants26 Jun 2019, 22:04 PM
Pak wall, use your panther defensivley to stop the churchills killing the paks.
Stuka strafe will help wreck them too, provided you use it well and gain good vision.
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Thread: Ostheer T2 Skip26 Jun 2019, 14:16 PM
You could lock shreks to T2, seems pretty reasonable.
Making T2 cheaper isn't a good idea because flame half track rush.
But I do think it's easy to counter, people just need to learn how to read it and what to build.
Thread: Ostheer T2 Skip26 Jun 2019, 13:55 PM
But when people start countering it propperly, normal T2 builds will become more solid again.
Part of the advantage of it is the PGs come out and provide good shock value against infantry which are trying to dig out your MGs.
I think if allies use M3, UC and M20 against this strat, it will force you to get a very early shrek (you dont even have snare), which prevents that first PG having an impact in the infatry battle (also no muni for bundled nade if you went fast shrek), so now their infatry should push you and your MGs off the map.
A single shrek squad isnt even that solid a counter to those lights, yes it will push them away, but they can go harass elsewhere, all the while they an focus you PG squad and force it to retreat.
There is definately a window to exploit before you have 2 squads with shreks.
Thread: Ostheer T2 Skip26 Jun 2019, 13:16 PM
I think T2 skip seems OP at the moment because it is a pretty hard counter to allied infantry spam swarms, which was meta for a good while. So people still doing normal builds and getting hurt by this kind of strat.
But it is entirely counterable.
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