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Panther is for pushing off pesky allied flanking vehicles, chasing heavily wounded tanks that got hit by paks/shreks etc, cheeky dives to kill katushkas.

It performs all these types of duties excellently, while being very user friendly and having great atributes and abilities for getting it out of trouble and evacuating to safety.

What its not supposed to do is sit in a fire fight with units designed to kill armour, like TDs.

Best course of action currently is do not reply in any form to toxic chat. Its much less ammusing and soon gets boring for trolls when they are talking to themselves

Yeah I was going to say thats likely due to Russia building insane amounts of weapons, which have floated around many parts of the world quite freely, as opposed to German weapons, a western nation, much more highly regulated and generally updated with more modern versions.

There is no such thing as a gun that is “too accurate”.

Suppressive fire isn’t something achieved through volume alone, that volume must also be on target.

Of course you can, HMGs are mostly designed to be 'inaccurate', in that they saturate a decent sized area with rounds, rather than a small patch. This is how you suppress a large area, quickly and easily.

Much of the time this is being done at very large ranges, you mostly cant even see the enemy, there is no 'target' to direct accurate fire towards. Your target will be something like a corner of some woods, or an area of a hill, or even some dead ground you cannot see.

A HMG which randomly places rounds all over that area and quickly, is going to keep the heads down of any enemy much more than a weapon placing rounds in a more predictable pattern.. thats why it can be true, and relevant, to say a weapon is too accurate.

4. BREN guns were not “too accurate”. The British standard of accuracy on a BREN gun was actually higher than that of their standard for a bolt action rifle and they wanted their BRENs to be highly accurate. The accuracy of the BREN was prized by Tommies as it allowed them to be very effective at suppressing enemy troopers with accurate fire with fewer rounds. If less accuracy was desired for some reason, it was simple to just hold the gun more loosely and let it vibrate around, you don’t need a less accurate or worn out barrel to do this.

There is a lot of context missing there, it is true that a Bren was NOT going to supress a group of infantry at range anywhere near as well as a propper HMG.

Any true HMG does two things, puts down a LOT of rounds, and does so with a "beating patern", which causes suppression over a decently large area. With more accurate weapons like a Bren, you could suppress a small area sure, but maybe not a larger area covering 10-20 infantry or more.

This was pretty much same problem with the more recently used British LSW (Light support weapon - just a long barreled SA80), it was deployed at section level with the role of fire support for flanking manouvers, however again just being a longer barreled version of the standard assault rifle, it only really added extra accuracy, no increase in rate of fire or spread of bullets. So it worked closer to a sniper type weapon, giving more concentrated fire than an actual MG, which was supposed to be its intended role.

This is LSW:



Which has been replaced by Minimi, which address the issues above:




I dont know what Dane was saying about Bren accuracy, but I dont doubt that it wouldnt perform suppression dutys as well as a propper MG due to being too accurate. That doesnt mean it wasnt a good gun, or well liked.