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IMO the idea behind it is more to make Riflemen scale well without being too good early game. Buying grenades for 25 fuel in early game is a really bad idea in any case. Especially because USF has a slow start against OKW anyways.
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IMO the idea behind it is more to make Riflemen scale well without being too good early game. Buying grenades for 25 fuel in early game is a really bad idea in any case. Especially because USF has a slow start against OKW anyways.
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Cooked grenades give the enemy less time to react and are thus more powerful and are thus more expensive.... Seems pretty straight forward to me...
Maybe make the snare tied to the grenade tech and make the option for cooked nades a vet1? Certainly see more grenade teching then
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It’s also only a 5 munition difference anyways, it’s just silly that they cost different amounts despite being the exact same physical thing.
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You better be ready for tomorrow when I nade you early game
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Volks are designed to be good early to mid-game with lots of utility like sandbags, panzerfaust and flame nade.
Riflemen and Infantry Sections are designed to be strong late game units that require a lot of investment but ultimately end up being better (in terms of combat power) than Volks as long as you keep them alive and make it into late game.
Not saying this concept is really good or that everything is balanced but that´s the idea behind it. Also five star veterancy for Volks is not really that meaningful anymore after the vet bonus got nerfed hard.
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Please, riflemans are no longer strong late game units. Their vet 3 RA got cut long time ago.
A rifleman with a Bar is just equal to a Stg44 volks. You can test that in the game.
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Please, riflemans are no longer strong late game units. Their vet 3 RA got cut long time ago.
A rifleman with a Bar is just equal to a Stg44 volks. You can test that in the game.
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Riflemen still have extra RA bonuses.
-23% received accuracy at vet 2
-15% received accuracy at vet 3, which used to be -25% that they had added in a previous patch
volks only get
-10% at vet 1
-10% at vet 3
A single bar rifleman also does more damage than stg volks at all ranges except for midrange where they are about equal.
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Offtopic, but are those bonuses additive or multiplicative?
Like since volks are the easier math: is their target size at vet3 81% (100*0.9*.9) or 80% (100-10-10)?
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Offtopic, but are those bonuses additive or multiplicative?
Like since volks are the easier math: is their target size at vet3 81% (100*0.9*.9) or 80% (100-10-10)?
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I think volks feel more tanky because they are granted the ability to deny enemies cover at a fair range while being able to make use of it themselves. At most they will be pushed from cover for all of a second but are able to inflict a movement penalty and flush cover of the enemy forcing them into the open to find new cover. Looking at volks piece by piece they are fine. Looking at the package, at all the things they can do as a whole they are too much. Most of the things that make them SO strong were simply piled on after the faction was designed initially and was piled on only considering what the faction was missing not what was already had. STGs, lava nades and a snare enable a unit that was supposed to be part of an army to carry said army. The fact that volks are even comparable to rifles is simply ubserd considering the 30mp difference especially when you consider just how bad volks dummy cons for a mere 10mp. Throw in the lack of any real investment to aquire their kit and you will find a poorly designed, over reaching unit.
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Multiplicative.
Actually their vet3 is 14%, edited my post.
Volks vet3 77.4% (100*.9*.86)
Riflemen vet3 63.5% (97*.77*.85)
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Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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.91 are grens.
.97 are rifles.
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So riflemen are 1% more durable than volks when they're both at vet3.
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How exactly are they 1% more durable when they are at 63.5% compared to Volks 77.4%?
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