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Initially OKW armor had same cost as ost, but that was changed when their eco was changed, the changes did not happen patch to patch, but over time and they add up to +25 fuel for respective vehicles.
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Yet another nice theory only the ostheer PzIV and OKW PzIV never had the same price.
Osther PzIV was 350/125 and now 350/120
OKW PzIV was 360/135 and then 360/150 and now 380/140
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Thats because the okw and ost p4 are not the same. One spawns with 234 armour the other only 180. The panthers used to be the same price iirc (command panther too for reasons unknown)
Okw vehicles are super durable, that warrants and extra cost. The only issue is that allied infantry stomps so much that allied medium armour isnt as necessary as axis mediums meaning the allies can sink their fuel into TDs allowing them to counter the armour advantage the axis need to tip the infantry fights.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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Overpriced stugcome on, jp4 is the best non doc AT in the game. Plus it costs roughly as much as a SU85, which is much worse than jp4. The only runner up to the jp4 is the jackson, but it is more expensive and still not as good.
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you are selectively picking your own words and ignoring the rest.
and Speaking of FF, they have a good reason for their high accuracy. They have one of the worst DPS in the game. 200 damage with a 8s reload is pretty bad. Their mobility is pretty bad as well.
FF:
+good accuracy
+good penetration
+tulip rockets
-bad mobility
-bad DPS
-tulip rocket require a individual munition upgrade and munition cost per use. It's very munition hungry
-bigger than normal size (23)
and actually let's look at FF vs jp4 accuracy at 45m
FF size: 23
jp4: 17
FF accu at 45: .05 (x1.10) = .055
Jp4 accu at 45: .045
FF vs jp4 = .055 * 17 = .935 (.85 if no tank commander upgrade)
Jp4 vs FF= .045 * 23 = 1.035
even with the tank commander, the Jp4 have an accuracy advantage over the Firefly. it is statistically impossible for a stationary jp4 to miss the firefly at 45m.
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that's called faction design
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Because
1) It was expensive already.
2) Was never spammed heavily because MUH PUNTOR
that's called faction design
Being bad at the game isn't something balance patches can fix.
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They used to be exactly the same, bar the vet bonuses.
Armor skirts used to be a muni upgrade. It started to change with revamps.
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in which patch do ypou play??
Jackson is the best nondoc TD. Everybody know it.
Jp4 is slow, has no turrent, low penetration, cant see/spot anything alone (feels like a 30 grad view to front ), is easy flankable and has low accu while moving/ turning
jackson is not that good like jp4? wtf?? are you really this dumb? it cost not that much more but its superior to any other nondoc td
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If u got problem make pather if u want tank destroyer with turret lol
Okw has so many late game option and usf just one so it must be good whats wrong with that ? I just think u desperately want attention. Jagpanzer is really strong and im sure its better than jackson íf u defence
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Jagpanzer is really strong and im sure its better than jackson íf u defence
Being bad at the game isn't something balance patches can fix.
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If u got problem make pather if u want tank destroyer with turret lol
Okw has so many late game option and usf just one so it must be good whats wrong with that ? I just think u desperately want attention. Jagpanzer is really strong and im sure its better than jackson íf u defence
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so you would choose a jpz4 to defend itself over a jackson vs a medium or any other armor? dumb decision.
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Only person i ever saw spamming panthers in 2's was you
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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Only person i ever saw spamming panthers in 2's was you
I use them for AI
(no, seriously, 20-30+ ai kills is norm on them)
Plus, that is my exact point, why get JP4 when panther was vastly superior and barely more expensive back then?
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Only person i ever saw spamming panthers in 2's was you
I use them for AI
(no, seriously, 20-30+ ai kills is norm on them)
Plus, that is my exact point, why get JP4 when panther was vastly superior and barely more expensive back then?
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Only person i ever saw spamming panthers in 2's was you
I use them for AI
(no, seriously, 20-30+ ai kills is norm on them)
Plus, that is my exact point, why get JP4 when panther was vastly superior and barely more expensive back then?
For the predator cammo and disappearance from reality.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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in which patch do ypou play??
Jackson is the best nondoc TD. Everybody know it.
Jp4 is slow, has no turrent, low penetration, cant see/spot anything alone (feels like a 30 grad view to front ), is easy flankable and has low accu while moving/ turning
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