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Blitzkrieg is pretty useless now

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25 Apr 2014, 08:05 AM
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Unless there is a new way to make use of it I find Blitzkrieg pretty useless now. Did anyone find a good use for it?
25 Apr 2014, 08:18 AM
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Probably needs further pricereduction.
Even though I have to say it has it uses. It still reduces received accuracy buy 25%?
What exactly did they change btw? :D
25 Apr 2014, 08:20 AM
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Welcome to the world of soviet tank vet, enjoy your stay.
25 Apr 2014, 08:32 AM
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It used to increase tank speed, now it does not, from the notes I got that it increases acceleration so if your tank is moving at max speed and u start blitzkrieg you will see no change.

The 25% reduced accuracy part I dont understand.
25 Apr 2014, 08:35 AM
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meh i was worng but it is defintly less LOL now.
25 Apr 2014, 08:39 AM
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Sorry I can't hear you, I'm busy playing March of the Soviet Tankmen on the world's smallest violin
25 Apr 2014, 09:11 AM
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Goodbye good old days where I could reverse the shit out of my panther having only 5HP left driving away from 5 T34/85 missing every shot at me -_-

No to be honest I think Blitzkrieg now really doesn't make sense. That acceleration thing is probably really nice but at least the Panzers could get a LITTLE speed increase. Not like the Sonic Speed they had before the patch but maybe just a little.
25 Apr 2014, 09:18 AM
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too fast before patch and too slow after patch.
25 Apr 2014, 09:22 AM
#9
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the change is too extreme, it was too fast before, now it does nothing.
25 Apr 2014, 09:24 AM
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You should now use it to flank your opponent. Instant max speed Panther is still very useful.
25 Apr 2014, 09:25 AM
#11
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Except that the Panther isn't worth its money now.
25 Apr 2014, 09:26 AM
#12
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You should now use it to flank your opponent. Instant max speed Panther is still very useful.


please tell us more, or post a video because what you are saying doesn't make sense.
25 Apr 2014, 09:29 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post25 Apr 2014, 08:32 AMAbdul
It used to increase tank speed, now it does not, from the notes I got that it increases acceleration so if your tank is moving at max speed and u start blitzkrieg you will see no change.

The 25% reduced accuracy part I dont understand.


It also used to decrease the received accuracy by 50%, because you are so fast you are harder to hit.

Now provides 1.6x acceleration
Received accuracy modifier from 0.5 to 0.75 (here)
Speed and accuracy modifier removed
Munition cost from 40 to 30

It also provided an increase to your own accuracy, to balance out the movment accuracy penalty all vehicles have. (I guess the 3. paragraph). Iam not sure if that only balanced out the increased speed, or if it was more accurate than a non blitzing vehicle.

If the former, its logical because now it's not faster, so it needs nothng to balance that out.
25 Apr 2014, 09:30 AM
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How are you supposed to flank an SU85 that reverses faster then any German tank at top speed? Before you could Blitz past them, now its impossible unless the make a mistake.
25 Apr 2014, 09:38 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post25 Apr 2014, 09:26 AMAbdul


please tell us more, or post a video because what you are saying doesn't make sense.



Don't worry next time I play a game with Panthers I'll show you how it's done.
25 Apr 2014, 09:48 AM
#16
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Pre patch all units were almost instantly at their maximum speed. This meant that Blitzkrieg was super effective since it increased the maximum speed, but not acceleration (which didn't really matter). Now acceleration does actually matter a lot, keeping the same Blitzkrieg ability would've resulted in a tank that takes ~30 seconds to accelerate to it's max speed and can barely break/move around corners.

Right now, a normal Panther feels more sluggish than the old one (due to the acceleration change), but with Blitz it's pretty similar. Panther is still one of the fastest tanks and with Blitz it still has the higher mobility, the fact it's also harder to hit is an added bonus. Play more with it and test it. One day is not enough to really figure out the new role of Panther and Blitz.
25 Apr 2014, 10:06 AM
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How are you supposed to flank an SU85 that reverses faster then any German tank at top speed? Before you could Blitz past them, now its impossible unless the make a mistake.


A common misconception among German players seems to be that blitzing straight up to a SU85 and circle strafing it was called "flanking" and was totally OK.

Try doing some actual flanking maneuvers. Use terrain and sight/shot blockers to your advantage. Or hell, use some of the other tools in the german arsenal to deal with SU85s. There are other ways to kill SU85s than driving straight up to them, which is the exact thing a tank destroyer is designed to be good against.
25 Apr 2014, 10:10 AM
#18
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yup, german tanks right now are completely UP.

Today i had a 115 fuel dedicated TD destroy my 115 fuel uber panzer.
Fucking ridiciluos. Oh and i even used troop training.

Also i used a-move. Just like the pros do...


I think i won't buy a signle thing from relic anymore. I even bought extremelly underpowered doctrines like elite troops with its completely useless tiger ace just to support them....
25 Apr 2014, 10:13 AM
#19
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Told ya they removed blitz because nubs whining they can't stop a fucking blitz P4.
25 Apr 2014, 10:16 AM
#20
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Just L2adapt porygon.
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