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Railway-Arty

6 Apr 2020, 14:41 PM
#1
avatar of Kieselberg

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Railway-Arty feels, compared to skillplanes and basically any other off map arty, way to weak for its price.

Maybe the cost has to lowered to 150muni or sth.
6 Apr 2020, 14:45 PM
#2
avatar of Lady Xenarra

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Railway-Arty feels, compared to skillplanes and basically any other off map arty, way to weak for its price.

Maybe the cost has to lowered to 150muni or sth.


For humour
6 Apr 2020, 14:47 PM
#3
avatar of IntoTheRain

Posts: 179

Plane attacks in general feel stronger than Artillery Strikes.

I would still take Railway Artillery over 240mm Barrage in a heartbeat though.
6 Apr 2020, 15:08 PM
#4
avatar of Vipper

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Plane attacks in general feel stronger than Artillery Strikes.

I would still take Railway Artillery over 240mm Barrage in a heartbeat though.

Have you tried 240mm barrage lately (after the patch)?
6 Apr 2020, 15:29 PM
#5
avatar of IntoTheRain

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jump backJump back to quoted post6 Apr 2020, 15:08 PMVipper

Have you tried 240mm barrage lately (after the patch)?


Yes?
6 Apr 2020, 15:35 PM
#6
avatar of Serrith

Posts: 783

I view it as a very expensive area denial tool. You arent going to get hit by it if you are paying the slightest attention but it will push you out of the area. That said, I wouldnt mind a slight cost decrease.
6 Apr 2020, 15:41 PM
#7
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Yes?

I am not sure why in your opinion the 3 shot from Gustav are superior to the 7 from 240mm barrage.
6 Apr 2020, 16:07 PM
#8
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jump backJump back to quoted post6 Apr 2020, 15:41 PMVipper

I am not sure why in your opinion the 3 shot from Gustav are superior to the 7 from 240mm barrage.


Maybe cause the first Gustav shell lands dead center.
6 Apr 2020, 16:39 PM
#9
avatar of Aerohank

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The railways main strenght is the first shell hitting directly on target. Good for taking out Brit emplacements or arty cannons.
6 Apr 2020, 16:42 PM
#10
avatar of Vipper

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The railways main strenght is the first shell hitting directly on target. Good for taking out Brit emplacements or arty cannons.

Time on target does the same for 4 CP earlier and less cost.

UKF emplacements can survive gustav with brace.
6 Apr 2020, 16:49 PM
#11
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jump backJump back to quoted post6 Apr 2020, 15:41 PMVipper

I am not sure why in your opinion the 3 shot from Gustav are superior to the 7 from 240mm barrage.


Its cheaper, the first shot lands dead center, and the two follow up shots scatter less.

While the 7 round barrage from the 240mm sounds impressive, the scatter distance is enormous, and it rarely hits anything. I expect more for 250 munitions.

Even if you just use it to try and force the enemy out of an area, there are at least half a dozen calldowns that do it cheaper and more effectively. It needs a re-tuning.
6 Apr 2020, 16:52 PM
#12
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yeah they're all pretty bad after the nerfs. They were terrible design anyways though pre nerf so imo don't care.
6 Apr 2020, 16:57 PM
#13
avatar of Vipper

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Its cheaper, the first shot lands dead center, and the two follow up shots scatter less.

And the simply mean you can move away from the warning smoke and be safe.

If you want to destroy a static a target TOT is simply superior, it comes earlier and it is cheaper.


While the 7 round barrage from the 240mm sounds impressive, the scatter distance is enormous, and it rarely hits anything. I expect more for 250 munitions.

Even if you just use it to try and force the enemy out of an area, there are at least half a dozen calldowns that do it cheaper and more effectively. It needs a re-tuning.

It is an area denial tool, you simply must leave the area for its long duration.
6 Apr 2020, 18:31 PM
#14
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Loitered skillplanes can be killed. Artillery keeps falling down.
6 Apr 2020, 23:40 PM
#15
avatar of Grumpy

Posts: 1947

Railway-Arty feels, compared to skillplanes and basically any other off map arty, way to weak for its price.

Maybe the cost has to lowered to 150muni or sth.


It's worse than the Stuka dive bomb, fragmentation bombing run, TOT, and IL2 bombing run, but still has its use - specifically, wiping static arty. It's also better than the 240mm from US, which seems to be mostly about cool sound effects. This is only an issue if everything Axis needs to be clearly better than anything the Allies have.
7 Apr 2020, 01:10 AM
#16
avatar of Support Sapper

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Question: dose the Concentrated fire operation from special weapons regiment have any shell guaranteed to land dead center ?

It is a copy paste ability anyway.
7 Apr 2020, 01:13 AM
#17
avatar of thedarkarmadillo

Posts: 5279

Give them aoe suppression and call it at that?
7 Apr 2020, 02:18 AM
#18
avatar of SkysTheLimit

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Definitely do not make it cheaper. If its not good enough for its cost, buff it. But making the endgame abilities that have high destructive potential cheaper is how you ruin team games. Becomes way too spammable
7 Apr 2020, 02:41 AM
#19
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Railway arty has been underpowered since forever. But because it's Ostheer, it's been ignored. Three ways to change:
1)Decrease cost to 150
2)Make the second and third shells land in quicker succession and reduce scatter
3)Increase # of shells from 3 to 5 and increase scatter to make it even better at area denial.
7 Apr 2020, 03:08 AM
#20
avatar of Serrith

Posts: 783

Definitely do not make it cheaper. If its not good enough for its cost, buff it. But making the endgame abilities that have high destructive potential cheaper is how you ruin team games. Becomes way too spammable


I would rather an ability be more spammable but dodgeable than not be spammable but near guarentee wipes.


Besides, the long cooldown already limits the spammability regardless of cost.
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