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On top of that I think only Grenadiers should have the extra range snare because of their vulnerability against vehicles. A 6 man Füssilier squad should not have this privilege.
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give Panzerfu an AT satchel like penals.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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The moment shrecks will do 40 damage with half of current penetration value, you can have it.
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Install the game, you will that PF with shrecks do not have access to AT grenades so this hole thread is about G43 PF...
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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Pay attention before screaming random things.
Shrecks doesn't exactly need long aim time and contrary to PTRS, you can easily get off a volley before vehicle gets close to you, taking it down to snare threshold.
And G43 already got sufficient snare and have no excuse to use anything else.
Such big brains, so little room for common sense.
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Pay attention before screaming random things.
Shrecks doesn't exactly need long aim time and contrary to PTRS, you can easily get off a volley before vehicle gets close to you, taking it down to snare threshold.
And G43 already got sufficient snare and have no excuse to use anything else.
Such big brains, so little room for common sense.
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u forgot they cost 295 and 80 munition vs 300 of penal and have worse dps at max range
so no they don't need 1 less g43, keep bias out please
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Yes I’m top 100 okw in 1v1 and biased against my fav faction.
You do realize you can argue against something without claiming bias, right?
Also max range G43 dps was buffed with the G43 changes, I doubt they lose at max range.
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Panzerfüssiliers UP now? I have heard it all on COH2.org.
I wonder what Vipper's opinion was if Panzerfüssiliers were an Allied unit.
So just to summarize: a unit that has 6 man, 3 G43s, longest snare in coh2, grenade without call out, flare, sprint, cheap reinforce cost and overall much stronger combat performance than Volks are considered UP.
Vipper time and time argues that Penals are OP but at the same time thinks Panzerfüssiliers, which are objectively just better, are UP. This must be the absolute definition of ridiculous double standards.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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Panzerfüssiliers UP now? I have heard it all on COH2.org.
I wonder what Vipper's opinion was if Panzerfüssiliers were an Allied unit.
So just to summarize: a unit that has 6 man, 3 G43s, longest snare in coh2, grenade without call out, flare, sprint, cheap reinforce cost and overall much stronger combat performance than Volks are considered UP.
Vipper time and time argues that Penals are OP but at the same time thinks Panzerfüssiliers, which are objectively just better, are UP. This must be the absolute definition of ridiculous double standards.
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Inb4 lengthy explanation why "this is simply incorrect" comes, explaining you that no amount of utility and combat flexibility(nades, flares, AT nades etc) ever will come close to a bit more dps of penals.
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Panzerfüssiliers UP now? I have heard it all on COH2.org.
I wonder what Vipper's opinion was if Panzerfüssiliers were an Allied unit.
So just to summarize: a unit that has 6 man, 3 G43s, longest snare in coh2, grenade without call out, flare, sprint, cheap reinforce cost and overall much stronger combat performance than Volks are considered UP.
Vipper time and time argues that Penals are OP but at the same time thinks Panzerfüssiliers, which are objectively just better, are UP. This must be the absolute definition of ridiculous double standards.
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If pfussies wer an allied unit, axis would have an easier time then going up against inf like riflemen and penals. Pfussies are weaker then volks in early and mid game, but only in late game ther better, overall combat performance i prefer volks but pfussies do have some nice utility and i dont agree ther up but i disagree with your statement saying pfussies are straight up better then penals. Penals utterly destroy pfussies except when in the lategame.
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funny, i remember u saying the same thing about cons
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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Volks cannot chase wipe. G43 Pfusies wreck shop with chasedown wipes due to G43 moving accuracy, hence why I want them to lose a G43, because the amount of wipes they get while chasing retreating units is too much.
Penals are irrelevant to this, as is standoff dps at max distance.
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What really needs to happen is the G43 moving accuracy meme needs to be replaced with some other function. One of the stupidest aspects of this game - units running around with scoped G43s firing accurate, rapid shots on the move with sniper rifle tracer fx...
Unfortunately I don't know how I'd rework it otherwise since the LMG42 already fulfills the role of the long-range model killer over on the Ost side, where this weapon carries over from. Subject for another thread.
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