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Thread: Guards as Anti Infantry22 Dec 2013, 11:36 AM Their anti-infantry is good, but not great. It'd be good if you're fighting weak infantry, but assuming you're fighting Grenadiers and Panzergrenadiers, you won't get a lot of damage down range. Guards have 2 AT Rifles, which are not good at Infantry fighting. This means they only have 4 Mosin-Nagants to do damage with. Their accuracy is better at close range than long, so use them close. I'd also recommend getting DP machine guns to improve anti-infantry ability. DP's should push them far enough ahead to beat Grenadiers consistently. Penals do a lot more damage than Guards due to having 6 SVT Rifles as opposed to 4 Mosin-Nagants. But Guards have 1.5 armour putting their survivability on-par with Grenadiers. In: Red Army Strategies
Thread: MG42 just useless ?21 Dec 2013, 12:51 PM I say replace current Penals with Strelkovy, make a different unit for Penals (maybe not the way I said, but something new, hell make a Penals doctrine, IL-2's that can do bombing runs during snowstorms or someshit). Why isn't there a thread to vent fantasy ideas, I could use that In: Strategy Desk
Thread: Stug III e needs some love21 Dec 2013, 12:35 PM You know, I wouldn't actually be opposed to free barrages for the StuG E. Ost lacks any form of artillery support between T2 Mortars and T4 Panzerwerfer. Any artillery support, doctrine or otherwise, it welcome by me. Besides, doesn't "Sturmgeschütz" translate to "Assault Artillery", designed with the sole purpose of providing direct artillery to Infantry (with later models (like the G) used as tank destroyers)? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Stug III e needs some love21 Dec 2013, 10:38 AM Jump back to quoted post19 Dec 2013, 22:05 PMImagelessbean The Stug IIIe should be the SU76 counterpart. If you rely on infantry heavy tactics and you need to clear guns or emplacements, this should be the go to vehicle. I thought the StuG III G was supposed to be the counterpart to the SU-76? Unless you're suggesting upping penetration and giving free barrage to the E, I can't see how it could really serve as a 'counterpart' when it doesn't do anything in common. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: G-43 vs SVT-4021 Dec 2013, 00:34 AM Guards actually wore capes? Huh, I assumed that was just artistic liberty to make them seem more 'heroic'. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Tiger Ace 20 Dec 2013, 12:39 PM Jump back to quoted post20 Dec 2013, 08:16 AMChuck Norris Relic unit designers = bunch of Michael Wittmann's fan-boys. Hahaha! Clearly, that's exactly why the MG 42 was useless for quite awhile, the reason Ost weapon crews are all 5x more vulnerable than their Soviet counterparts, and the reason Soviet is considered overall better and dominates the leaderboards. One overpowered unit that happens to be on the German's team doesn't mean Relic are Nazis, that's ridiculous. It's like calling them Communists because Conscripts are better than Ostruppen or because Penal Troops are better than Grenadiers. I don't remember anyone accusing Relic of being Nazi fanboys back when Panzer Elite wiped the floor with the Americans early-game, or when the King Tiger and Jagdpanther were introduced. Hell, CoH1 had literal ubermensch, Knights Cross Holders were the strongest infantry in the game, one squad could take on a Rifle Squad and come out with no casualties, they even took 2 sniper shots to kill, per man. And Stormtroopers with 2x StG 44 upgrade were even stronger, virtually unstoppable by infantry, anything that wasn't armoured melted before their eyes. CoH1 was a game where the unfit for service Volksgrenadiers were better fighters than the American's Elite Airborne division! Nobody cried Nazi bias over that. I could go on but I'll stop here. This kind of shit is ridiculous though. They shouldn't be afraid to balance the game fairly and be called Nazis for it because Soviet players are mad that they can't just Red Tide everything and win. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: G-43 vs SVT-4020 Dec 2013, 11:50 AM Jump back to quoted post19 Dec 2013, 12:57 PMtokarev Sorry, but you are out of your mind. I never intended it to be a serious suggestion, more of a fantasy idea than anything else. I just think it's a bit silly that Penal Troops are described in-game as worthless scum, but in practice are treated like skilled front line troops with fancy weapons that even Guards aren't allowed to have. Now maybe historically they weren't considered as worthless as I thought they were, but either way I'm pretty sure they weren't considered better Soldiers than the rest of the Red Army. Even just listening to their voices is contradictory. "The real soldiers are busy", says the guy leading a squad of SVT's and Flamethrowers, while the "real soldiers" have Bolt-Actions that they can barely aim. "You need a suicide squad?" seems much more in-line with the literal suicide squad I outlined. Maybe I'm just nit-picky, but there's a huge divide between their description and voice, and actual combat role in-game. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Shocktroops at 1CP20 Dec 2013, 11:42 AM Jump back to quoted post20 Dec 2013, 10:54 AMAradan Not everyone want play consript spam. For me consrpts dont scale well. No weapon upgrade and weak armor. Grens with G43 rape them as no tomorow. In team games i use them only for merge and pick up OH superior support weapons. Penals was very good, but now the same. Shock troops are very viable now versus pay2win OH commander and his insta vet. Then they should make T1 more viable or improve the Cons in some way. T1 is pretty solid, I just personally don't like it because without the ZiS, you're seriously open to German Armoured attacks. T1 gives no AT, and doctrines only offer soft AT solutions. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Stug III e needs some love19 Dec 2013, 01:15 AM If they want a counterpart to the T-70, why didn't they give us a Panzer III? I want a Panzer III... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: G-43 vs SVT-4018 Dec 2013, 23:24 PM Jump back to quoted post18 Dec 2013, 12:17 PMCaptain_Frog Thank you, someone who actually reads into things. Anyway back on topic. Correct me if I'm wrong (Waiting for Nullist to jump in here or someone with good knowledge of the game statistics and tables.) but do grenadiers have a better chance of hitting targets than Penals? This would explain the apparent "ineffectiveness" of the SVT against G43s. Or are the damage tables for both guns radically different? I'm not Nullist, but I'll do it. Grenadiers are much more accurate with their Kar 98's (65%/35%) and G43's (65%/80%) than Penals are with their SVT's (47%/26%). Jump back to quoted post18 Dec 2013, 13:45 PMJames Hale I love these ideas about having a Soviet squad armed with just sticks. I'd want to go back in time and see the Russian Rage Reviews (TM) after the game was released and see footage of unarmed squads being thrown at MG-42s in MP games whilst Conscripts flank them. I'm talking about just Penal Troops. I'm well aware that the "unarmed Russians charge into battle" was just an act of severe desperation during the Battle of Stalingrad. Penals on the other hand were just prisoners plucked from Gulags, rounded into a group, charged at enemy positions, then the survivors were put into another group and charged again. Sometimes they held sticks to make them look like Soldiers, and in winter they wore the darkest uniforms so the Germans would fire at them first and not the Red Army men nearby. In: COH2 Balance