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Cons, being generally close range units, wouldn't profit much from the DP MG. PPSH is not really that bad, even at 2CP. In teamgames, unless it's a map like Ettelbruck, you won't really go for it.
One thing I've seen done successfully though, in 3v3 was this:
Double mortar + PPSH cons. Mortar smokes for cons to close in. Rinse and repeat the whole game (also advanced WF commander) until T3485s.

I am going to hard disagree with this. DP upgrade would be even better than the SVT upgrade for cons. At VET0 cons would do about 11.6 DPS at max range with over 50% of the DPS concentrated in one model and a 4/5 model buffer before needing to retreat. They also get the efficiency buff of LMG focus fire that could cause RNG to swing their way on approaching units. They would be even better than Grens as cons would be able to pick any spot on the map and make green cover. As an OST you would never take that battle unless you have your own green cover in the area/OKW would be fucked the moment DPs come on line.

Now comparing them to Penals max range- At Vet0 cons would do 11.6 DPS while Penals would do 10.8 DPS. As cons can tech AT nade they don't have the LV weakness along with sprint to relocate and sandbags to preserve MP. I would assume Cons would vet faster due to AT nade/flame nade boosting exp generation a bit.

Now at VET2 cons would do about 17.7 DPS where it would take until VET3 Penals to outclass them and it wouldn't be by much. Serelia has Penals doing about 20.6 which is using the old 30% acc at Vet3. I know its rough but subtracting 10% would drop it to 18.5. Aside from early bullying, there would be no point to Penals.

I used Serelia Guards Infantry numbers for DP DPS, for some reason Airborne Guards have a different starting acc compared to Guards so one is a mistake not sure which. Technically the Cons number is a little low as the get 40% acc not 30 with VEt

EDIT: Just realized that the DP is an upgrade for cons at all ranges not just long range LOL. Man their base gun is shitty.

IF you see the game chat I had played against them the match before. Pretty good game but lost. I had gone for a 2 sniper start with double PTRS Penal build and completely zoned him out. However whenever I would begin to push his allies would help almost instantaneous. They end up winning with superior teamwork but at the end Bosnian starts running his mouth. This match I notice that they were an arranged team.

I went with 1 sniper build this time into scout car 2 penals and decided kind of late to go terror. Wanted Howi to force them to move as the last game they made heavy use of 251.

Highlights:
Great teamwork both sides, obviously they did better do to arranged
Got over 30 kills with sniper, brit commandos did work, USF Paths held up against constant pressure. Pretty much camo did good for us
They made great use of 251, dislodging them took for ever and when we did another axis army would rotate in and push us back
Howi ended up being good choice as they spammed 251/reinforce bunker/ repair building.
We got lucky with killing ele to heavy brit plane, really put them on the back foot

Low Light
Lost both T34 as I tried to create space to RAM, didn't work out
Lost sniper on purpose to free up cap space but still felt dirty doing it
SU85 handling was Subpar could have rotated a few times earlier to get a kill or save ally from push

Premade axis rank 50 vs randoms in top 100 on Whiteball. 45 minutes long slugfest. Plenty of hidden raketen. Extreme cancer. Recommended.

Bro, literally just had a game against them. Time to give yours a watch

Edit: That Sturmtiger kill was clutch, it stopped all their momentum as he finally got it going. The other USFbplayer had a great play with the AA half track jumpin in and out to mess up the targeting.

Ugly start with losing a penal squad early staying to long to beat out mg. Ally lost rifleman shortly after to long retreat path and blob. A little later I lose my scout car to bad car handling. I was being hesitant on pushing around the fussies. Didn't care about losing the car just couldn't decide whether to push in or shoot from far while other units took shots. As I noticed massive fussi blob I went with airborne LMG. Kept my fights at max range and with MP float built caches for the team.
Finally got my chance to payback OST player with wipe on retreat while Brit ally wiped another unit. This really set back OST player and he never really recovered as brit kept up pressure along with a few fear propogandas to keep him off balance. USF player and I poke and prodded while decapping cutoffs whenever we could. Eventually built Howi which OKW player picked firesteurm to counter. Think it was a good trade as I replaced howi with Katy later on but he is stuck with a commander he cant make much use of.
We go back and forth in the middle while USF player isolates fussie player and eventually kills Tigers causing him to rage quit.

Rewatching the game, he had a chance to really help out Ost player with Tiger push as he would have caught Brit player off guard and forced me to rotate but he left him to fend for himself.

For real bro are you not tired of spewing the same bullshit again and again?

We all know COH2 is not "realistic" by the standards of military notation since in actual military world even the most light operation can take up to 5 days to succeed (or fail) when in the game you must give as much content as you can to a player playing for 1 to 1 1/2 hours. Get real. Nobody said COH2 is WW2 simulation.

BUT, all the units ever used actually EXISTED.

NObody can blame the design team for ALTERNATE HISTORY scenarios, since even the most unicorn tank in existence (Sturmtiger) actually had a sizeable combat history.

Putting a blueprint tank on it sets a dangerous precedent.

And believe you me, Nazi paper tanks were way better than Allied paper tanks. So if push comes to shove, don't cope yourself too much.

Bro, your autism is showing. This is my first post in this thread. If your talking in general can you show me the last time I spoke about realism, the only time I can think of is complaining about OKW having any sort of late game air support.

I AGREED with the fact that adding blueprint tanks was a bad idea.

I guess I will cope hard as OKW used to be my favorite faction before the tech change. Shit, I used to build VG into mechanized and prioritized fuel to get flak out quick. Then build Battlegrouppe for JP4 with Falls providing elite infantry. I stopped playing OKW because they changed it to a crappy version of OST.