Profile of rumartinez89

Long game, went with double sniper start to mess around with radio intercept. Started slow, picked up steam later but they take a lot of POP.

Early mid game was nothing special, right sided ally gave up on it early went mid. Was fairly even game with axis having better map control. Mid game we fell behind as I was IS2 stalling, soviet went KV8 into katy and he lost both back to back. At this point they start their Pak43 setup which worked great for them. They had up to 4 at one point with a repair station nearby so we couldn't finish off their tanks.

At several point allies had no army due to losses but axis couldn't push due to so much POP in PAK/arty. This saved us as little by little we katy/mattressed each Pak until they were dead while also getting good infantry kills.

One axis made 3 hetzer/4 rak army and actually made it work well but in final push it was kind of useless as he was having trouble microing them.

I'm gonna level with everyone in this thread: I can micro the shit out of tanks, but the rest of my army will die because I forget about them. It's almost like I don't have object permanence. If I'm trying to crush someone's troops, high command is not gonna hear that you've got a grenade landing at your feet.

I think that’s true for most of us. Tanks are the larger investment so it makes sense to zone in on those units. Most mainline infantry is fairly replaceable outside of fully vetted Rifleman with double upgrades

Didn’t M10 crush get heavily nerfed. Armor company used to be my go to commander with insta build AssE and M10 spam that could crush infantry and in numbers bully any tank.

A tiger for example could have 60 range while using AP rounds, (which would help break up the tank destroyer spam meta) but then being extremely exposed with HE rounds and being limited to 40 range creating strengths and weaknesses for each Heavy instead of the Generic attack move kill everything low risk high reward beasts that they were before.

I don't think you thought this part completely through. Giving the tiger 60 AT rounds wouldn't change to much for Soviets as SU85 also has 60 range, if you know the stall is coming you get 2 which should be about the same price. Not only can the SU85 take pot shots with self spotting, you can now rush in with Penals/Cons with little to no worry of possible wipe on the way in.

But any changes should be mirrored so lets look at what OST would be facing. As it stands now, OST need T3 building but BP3 researched. That means all OST tanks would be outranged by the 60 range IS2, literally one tank invalidates an entire building. With the high armor of the IS2 the 2 P4s will be dominated or 3 Stugs would get crushed as IS2 picks on one and the Soviet army bullies the others. If you got Tier 4 you are even further behind unless you stall for the Tiger also.

Cons, being generally close range units, wouldn't profit much from the DP MG. PPSH is not really that bad, even at 2CP. In teamgames, unless it's a map like Ettelbruck, you won't really go for it.
One thing I've seen done successfully though, in 3v3 was this:
Double mortar + PPSH cons. Mortar smokes for cons to close in. Rinse and repeat the whole game (also advanced WF commander) until T3485s.

I am going to hard disagree with this. DP upgrade would be even better than the SVT upgrade for cons. At VET0 cons would do about 11.6 DPS at max range with over 50% of the DPS concentrated in one model and a 4/5 model buffer before needing to retreat. They also get the efficiency buff of LMG focus fire that could cause RNG to swing their way on approaching units. They would be even better than Grens as cons would be able to pick any spot on the map and make green cover. As an OST you would never take that battle unless you have your own green cover in the area/OKW would be fucked the moment DPs come on line.

Now comparing them to Penals max range- At Vet0 cons would do 11.6 DPS while Penals would do 10.8 DPS. As cons can tech AT nade they don't have the LV weakness along with sprint to relocate and sandbags to preserve MP. I would assume Cons would vet faster due to AT nade/flame nade boosting exp generation a bit.

Now at VET2 cons would do about 17.7 DPS where it would take until VET3 Penals to outclass them and it wouldn't be by much. Serelia has Penals doing about 20.6 which is using the old 30% acc at Vet3. I know its rough but subtracting 10% would drop it to 18.5. Aside from early bullying, there would be no point to Penals.

I used Serelia Guards Infantry numbers for DP DPS, for some reason Airborne Guards have a different starting acc compared to Guards so one is a mistake not sure which. Technically the Cons number is a little low as the get 40% acc not 30 with VEt

EDIT: Just realized that the DP is an upgrade for cons at all ranges not just long range LOL. Man their base gun is shitty.