i mean we all live to play and watch the tourneys not? but yea i meant the tourney bans.
regarding the last paragraph, yea its up to him, but it crossed my mind and the mind of others so i felt the need to mention the option. Its his call to make ofc. Maybe he would permit under supervision i dunno, but im not here to speculate. All i wanted was to mention the option.
I just find it absurd to consider this a real option. if this is taken as a serious possibility and he rightfully declines, it will just feed into 'ofc he did because they could have found the cheats' mindset and smear him further. There should be a serious step back and just let the process take its time. There have been a lot of accusations, Seeking should have his time to defend and afterwards everyone can reevaluate who he believes more. Suggestions that are so unproportionate help no one. Seeking is accused of potential cheating, not of criminal assault, murder or large scale drug trafficking. There is no reason to throw a 'let's search his private PC' into the pot.
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Then all clips a side, maybe some the computergods that are present in this community could investigate seekings pc of traces of third party apps or the removal of such apps. (Not an computer god myself but I thought something like this could be done at the very least). That would save us time speculating on a bunch of clips of which some are quite circumstantial like Sturmtiger Ghaddaffi pointed out in his stream. Then we could even completely pass this discussion about clips, and leave that behind us.
I'll snip the first paragraphs. I am not involved in any of the processes, but from what I got the current discussion revolves around banning Seeking from ML tournaments. While this is bad for him, it is different from being banned by Relic from CoH2 in general. I am not sure if you are aware, because your post is not clear on this.
Last paragraph would be a heavy privacy breach. Unless Seeking is fine with random people searching through his private computer (which he absolutely should not be), this is definitely not an option. |
I think everyone who thinks the map itself is fine also wouldn't mind the bugs being fixed though, ofc does color results a bit.
I agree, but it is more about the people that voted to kick it out. They might have voted for a fixed version, but that did not appear as an option previously.
Just think about what would help you more for making a decision: Having one incomplete question but a truthful answer, or having a complete question but less trustworthy result. If you want, I can still change it, just give me a heads up.
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what if we let seeking speak directly to accusators in a voice chat/meeting?
So that everybody involved can tell his opinion and argue about the situation?
I mean accusators collected a lot of clips, that's fine.
Seeking trying to explain the clips, that's fine.
But in both scenario there wasnt the other side ready to reply on whatever was being said.
my 2 cents.
I mean, that's what is being done?
AE said they give him one week to appeal and explain what is going on. |
If a moderator can change the option in the final poll to:
"No, Vilshanka is fine and should rather be fixed"
That would be nice, altough it's probably out of the realm of possibility to happen at this point, with Rosbone having given it a shot already.
Also slight grammar error in second poll option, should be:
"Yes, I like how it plays"
I mean, I can, but I doubt it is a good idea with so many votes already being casted. The ones who already voted can't change ti anymore. |
A_E said they double checked the ML replays with the live casts and found no difference in the fog of war. I'll take that over Rosbone arbitrarily declaring how consistent fog of war is off the top of his head.
As for the gif Rosbone posted, it seems like something else is going on. 1 frame is not enough to explain about 4m of extra LoS gained in the 2nd clip. There's something else involved.
I mean technically it could have something to do with the spectator mode, since spectating the game is not 100% real time. But yes, that would be cutting a lot of slack and I hope AE does/did the right tests.
A_E is dropping a video tomorrow that disproves the delay theory and differences in fog of war.
Thanks for the info, looking forward to seeing it.
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It's good that you checked it so accurately, but if what Rosbone said is true we cannot fully trust the FOV. There seem to be some differences of ~2 meters if I would need to guess.
It is still very quick reaction times by Seaking, but overall many of the short source videos I watched revolve exactly around those couple of meters where we can't tell if Seaking can actually see it or not.
Depending on how the maphack is set up, this would imply that he has to remember the exact FOV of each unit to convincingly fake "true" gameplay. At least for these type of videos, not saying there aren't other shady ones. |
That wouldn't work with on map arty or even basic engagements where hits can become rng and not kill/kill unit that it isn't supposed to.
They save the game seed so that every RNG roll has the same outcome. That's something that is easily doable.
But maybe someone else can elaborate on what exactly is in this file. |
I didn't mean replay files. But I guess that would be very accurate. I doubt relic would let the extraction of their proprietary play back format even though it's probably a unit positions along with at what frame or however in game time is calculated is attached to it.
Some people extract info like victory points and wins etc from those files. As far as I know it is mostly a file containing orders, and the game then simulates what is happening if you watch a replay.
That's what I use now.
As weird as it sounds, the stats themselves are somewhat inaccurate. As I said, give me a week or two to work out the model properly, I'll then publish it for criticism. |
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I fully support that.
From your second post though you were debating if Vipper had a point in general by referring to "He [Katitof] included exactly what you say". But he did not.
I agree though that the far values paint the picture too bright, since you realistically want to close in to a range of 5-20 meters (depending how much you want to risk your tank for that) to get the best shots off. Still even at those values, pen chance against heaavies has gone up ~20-30%. |
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