Well, the thing is: Yes, the team could probably replace the ability with some other ability. However, that would leave it in its current state and thus not used much on the other commanders that have it. Changing the other commanders would be out of scope.
OR they have the option to change the ability to something that is considered useful, and these changes would then automatically carry over to the other commanders.
So, if it is not salvageable, so be it. But it would be much better if it could be turned into something useful so that other commanders that are out of scope but still underpowered would benefit from this change.
On a related note: Do you have the option to give the commander an existing ability that other commanders have and change that? Sort of to get around the "other commanders are out of scope" issue?
So, seems like “Fields of Winnekendonk” will make it into automatch, yay! I entered the competition mostly hoping for some feedback but expecting to lose out early as I don’t exactly have a lot of experience with building maps. Certainly, submitting to the “rural” category increased the chances…
Thanks to everybody giving feedback as that helped enormously in improving the map! I think I incorporated most of the suggestions in the past rounds. I’m currently working on an updated version using the latest feedback. Great to be able to respond to the comments now
The spoiler contains some background on the map, in case you are interested.
The north base needs to cross negative cover roads to reach two of the 3 victory points making it harder to do so
The trees lining the middle road seem to be a bit much, making Light vehicle pathing a bit frustrating in those areas
Road has been placed near one of the southern map entry points allowing for faster movement from there
I wouldn’t mind seeing munitions, fuel, and victory points spread out a bit more instead of all being crammed in the corners. Nice cutoff territories to try and draw the focus to the mid a bit and balance this out
Re 1: Well, not sure how you count… Anyways, I blew up the smaller street close to the east VP now, which could help both sides depending on the situation:
Re 2: I removed some poplars lining the eastern dirt road now, and respaced some of the trees along the main road to improve pathing. Is this more of a general concern or did somebody actually experience problems there when actually playing on the map?
Re 3: Ok, I fixed this in the new version.
Re 4: Yeah, well, as you write the idea is to balance that by the placement of the cut-off. I’m open for suggestions, but I feel that when they would be moved closer to the bases, they would be too hard to contest for the other team. On the other hand, when moving them towards the center, the side with the better long-range units would have an easy time securing them.
after playing this map 3 times in the tourney, im pretty sure its my favorite. Fairly balanced and some nice cutoffs for high level gaming! I will vote for it and hope it will make it into the live game! great work and thanks for your effort! Just one thing to have an eye, i noticed the green cover in the mid is favorable for the north spawn, had a hard time find good natural cover from south for contesting and controlling mid VP
Thanks! It was pretty exciting seeing you play on this map.
Regarding the cover situation in the center: That is actually supposed to be reasonably symmetric. I had a look into it again and found that indeed on piece of cover for north was about 2 meters closer than the equivalent piece in the south. So after some slight adjustments, I have this:
The dung heap in the south is supposed to mimic the planewreck in North. You’d think this works? Or, what doesn’t work about the dung-heap in the current workshop version?
Also – not really related – I was thinking about the strategic points east and west close to the sheds: Currently, they are cut-off by the main fuel cut-offs that you fought over during your matches. I’m thinking about moving the sector boundaries so that cut-off would not cut this point off, only the fuel and points beyond that. This would make being cut-off on this side less punishing.
I guess this would make the map more accessible for the average players; would you think this would be detrimental for high-level play?
Ah, well, I think I found and removed the last remaining splines/splats that produced the snow splashes. Well, you live and learn
I know you guys think that I need to work on the blending and put in more splats and recolor stuff (even though I hope I improved on that front compared with the earlier rounds). Not sure how to go about this, maybe you have some concrete examples of what where I can improve stuff?
Another change I made in current (not-yet-live) version is that I removed the small house on the southern edge of the map. I was never sure if that actually existed already but the new aerial photos show that instead there was a formal farmhouse garden (complete with the typical crossshaped paths, in case you are into gardening ).
Given that the house didn’t have much function anyways, I changed the area to look like this:
Anybody thinks that that is a problem gameplay-wise?
I also adjusted some parts of the downtown Winnekendonk area in the OOB parts to match the photos and changed the lighting a little bit to give it more of a "dusk" feel.
Congrats winners, hope dont will be need to veto this maps
Well, the good thing is you have about 2-3 weeks to describe why you'd think you would veto a specific map. Chances are, it gets fixed before they end up in automatch and you can save your precious vetoes for other maps
Getting them changed once they are in the mappool has been pretty hard in the past, so...
Specifically the Ost and Sov commanders have a bigger overlap in terms of capabilities. And there are a lot of underused commanders there as well.
Is it possible to buff certain abilities so that not only those commanders are buffed but the - potentially underused - commanders that share the same ability? In that case it would be possible to kill maybe like 1.5 birds with one stone, if you know what I mean...
To clarify: Do changes to commander abilities of the chosen group carry over to other commanders with the same abilities or would the change be limited to the commanders listed?
Community Vote (10 pts)
The community as a whole will be able to vote on their favorite maps.
This is another british colonial "smart and bold" move to have the only select few vote, so you can win the useless first prize for yourself, because you need that type of memory now? WTF is this sh!t again?
Having read through it would I be right to say that the present state of your chosen faction in the meta has minimal/zero bearing on your ability to climb up or down the ranked ladder? Well, besides your ability to adapt to balance patch changes I suppose, but the true "power level" of your faction at that state in time in 1v1s has little impact.
One could argue about what the effect of patches. Assuming your chosen faction is weaker after a patch: The effect of that will be that all players will loose ELO so eventually the ranks should stay the same. However, players that play a lot will have their ELO adjusted earlier, so they are more likely to lose ranks initially (although they should later climb roughly to their previous rank).