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Thread: Sander's personal balance changes31 Oct 2020, 00:10 AM Jump back to quoted post31 Oct 2020, 00:07 AMSpoof Like others have said, nerf the throw range when the squad is suppressed. thing is, its already nerfed, same as the others. the problem is that the range and speed of throw allow it to be thrown BEFORE that penalty is applied when facing the maxim and the vickers. you could make it so the lava nade couldnt throw at all when suppressed and it wouldnt make much difference because its usually airborne before the suppression starts suppressing. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: EFA halftracks late game31 Oct 2020, 00:06 AM Jump back to quoted post30 Oct 2020, 12:02 PMVipper Quad being able to reinforce is tricky since the ability suppress 360 can easily lead to support weapon spam around it. Maybe allow an option un-upgrade? unupgrade would be kinda awkwardish. it feels like more of a solution for the flametrak since the m5 late game all you buy it for is the AA. id just buy a new one as soviet then throw away all those munitions for JUST mobile reinforcement. or rather not even bother since i can just merge... my hope is to find a way to allow it to be more than that. what about: a lock down mode for the 251 that allows for reinforcement and for the quad a lock down for suppression/AA the 251 plays to the more static nature of ost and the suppression being a lock down but the damage NOT allows soviet to have more mobile firepower to help cons and still have a strong point option outside that. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Sander's personal balance changes30 Oct 2020, 22:27 PM Jump back to quoted post30 Oct 2020, 14:47 PMPip True, but again the Incendiary grenade is simply OKW's only option against cover early on. Cons, again, have access to Oorah, giving them significantly better mobility than Volks. The fact the Molotov is 33% cheaper than the Incendiary grenade should imply that it ought to have some downsides, as well. The molitov is slower to throw and has less range. This combo means that cons will take more damage using it. The later is also a massive boon because it's much easier to get a lava made off when charging an Mg frontally. This is especially problematic for both Maxims and vickers who struggle to suppress. Another boon to the extra range is the ability to deny cover from cover, something that usually won't happen with the molitov. Another HUGE thing is that the molitov costs 80mp and 10 fuel which more than offsets the 10mu extra the lava made costs. For no extra tech cost and increased range and faster throw perhaps the lava nade should have more of a downside than 10mu. Matter of fact not being able to frontally burn down mgs would be a more than welcome change... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: an OKW and SOV balance question30 Oct 2020, 21:11 PM Jump back to quoted post30 Oct 2020, 20:17 PMAerohank MG34s and Maxims don't see much action because their tech requirements are restrictive (and because the maxim is too expensive for what it does). By the time you unlock them you are better of spending your MP on other units. For OKW an option would be to lock MG34 behind 1st truck build instead of 1st truck deployed. For Soviet an option would be to make T1/T2 cheaper and T3 more expensive. Mg34 behind 1 truck is probably the best. As for soviet making t1/t2 cheaper and keeping t3 the same but with a side tech to get the t70+ progress to t4 might be a less than elegant solution for a few problems. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: The maxim thread30 Oct 2020, 21:06 PM Jump back to quoted post30 Oct 2020, 20:56 PMelchino7 A good rule of thumb, is that anything that mimics abilities or behaviours which are already in the game is possible in theory unless state otherwise. I don't think we have any kind of siphon ability nor that it would look well or be approved at all. Imagine using a sniper, hitting the gunner and suddenly another random model drops down. Same with say indirect fire. Crazy idea here.... Could the maxim with its fancy gun shield provide green cover? That would give it a damage reduction which might be enough to help reduce the loop. Knock off a model then to compensate. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: The maxim thread30 Oct 2020, 20:42 PM Jump back to quoted post30 Oct 2020, 19:37 PMgbem this may be an interesting change... it would mean that the maxim essentially functions as an anti machinegun machinegun... maybe we can go a step further and lower its setup time significantly then remove its suppression allowing it to work as a true DPS machinegun? It already kinda functions like an anti mg mg since it doesn't stop firing if suppressed. I don't like the idea of completely removing its suppression as it leaves the soviet completely without a suppression platform aside from the M5. As bad as the maxim is at least it's mp only and once in a while itll suppress a squad assuming it isn't walking right at it. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Pershing blows - USF Heavy Cavalry30 Oct 2020, 20:36 PM I know it's getting off topic this discussion but I feel like usf is supposed to thrive with munitions like okw does with fuel. Choices and what not are supposed to matter. The biggest flaw imo is that weapon upgrades for all factions are so damn mandatory/no brainer that it makes munitions tight just because for a one time upgrade you get a flat power increase (where for hvap or something it's a timed thing) so deciding which one to take isn't really much of a decision at all. Its too late in the games life but imo weapon upgrades should be more tailored and less good at everything so that non upgraded squads are more viable thus freeing up munitions for more dynamic play like grenades and HVAP ect. The usf57mm is a great lil gun, but nobody bothers to have muni for it because them bars are much easier to see the impact of. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: The maxim thread30 Oct 2020, 19:33 PM It got glossed over so I'd like to resubmit for discussion the idea of longer range for the maxim. This puts it further away from the fight meaning further from harm and outside a flank less Likley to get deathlooped. It also gives it more time to suppress enemies assuming it's spotted for. Dial down the arc so it's not OP as hell of course. Kinda keeps it unique and also let's it be an "assault mg" by allowing it to be o fire on enemies without taking fire itself In: COH2 Balance
Thread: M4A3E8 - Rifle Company USF30 Oct 2020, 15:57 PM Jump back to quoted post30 Oct 2020, 14:09 PMPip The Jackson is still arguably the best TD in the game, and doesn't even struggle against the P4. It pens on every single shot midrange at vet0 against the P4J, and every single shot at vet0 against the P4G. It pens every time against any P4 at vet3, as well, without needing to use HVAP. HVAP then gives it fantastic DPS versus premium Med and heavier armour. I mean, I know you're trolling, but I'll respond in good faith anyway. He's not trolling. He genuinely thinks that every single usf unit and ability is underpowered. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: EFA halftracks late game30 Oct 2020, 12:48 PM Jump back to quoted post30 Oct 2020, 12:02 PMVipper Quad being able to reinforce is tricky since the ability suppress 360 can easily lead to support weapon spam around it. Maybe allow an option un-upgrade? I figured the timing would help offset the strength a bit. If it couldn't reinforce until t4 then there is lots to challenge it, additionally I don't think the suppression would be a huge issue as the maxim falls off around when t2 is built so this would allow a scaling suppression platform starting t3 and be more than just AA come t4. If it's on or near the front providing support it's better for the soviet, but also easier to dive which would be better for plane strikes In: COH2 Balance