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Thread: stuka zu fuss needs more RNG in it9 Nov 2020, 20:59 PM The advantage of the Stuka is also its disadvantage. While you know exactly where those rockets are going.... So does the enemy and if the enemy is on point they will get away without you dealing any damage. Given the price point and the tier its in and the above I think it's mostly fine tbh In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Gren G439 Nov 2020, 15:11 PM Jump back to quoted post9 Nov 2020, 08:25 AMUnit G17 Yes, but on PanzerGrens, cuz it increases their effective range, gives them even better DPS while moving in close range or chasing retreating squads and only slightly reduces close range standing efficiency. On Grens it's a bit weird, doesn't increase their long range DPS at all, but makes them better at close range, something that Grens are generally not intended for (and still far worse than PGs). It made a bit more sense while PGs were locked behind T2. Eh. I still kinda like it on grens just because of the mobility. I think it also has merit despite pgrens just because you get them at a cheaper cost and have another snare (vs pgrens) it's got pros and cons I think In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Conscript PPSH assault package9 Nov 2020, 15:07 PM Jump back to quoted post9 Nov 2020, 13:48 PMWAAAGH2000 At least it should be cheaper，around 45 ammo？Maybe give more buff，like replace Molotov by grenade，or Ura！！ be free? I don't like the idea of removing access to something you have to specifically tech exclusively for personally. Make it cheaper and have a small buff tied to oorah. Keeps it accessible but also a bit "more" In: COH2 Balance
Thread: MG42 over performing 9 Nov 2020, 15:01 PM Jump back to quoted post9 Nov 2020, 03:34 AMKoRneY Well, I guess I prefer airborne and just drop them in. It's not so 'straightforward' but it's not so hard either. A doctrinal work around hardly qualifies. By that logic the Pershing is more available than the king tiger because I prefer heavy cav and I don't believe we will find anyone who agrees with that. It's impossible to NOT have access to the mg34 whereas it is possible to have to side tech for the 50 cal In: COH2 Balance
Thread: MG42 over performing 8 Nov 2020, 16:20 PM Jump back to quoted post8 Nov 2020, 05:49 AMKoRneY How is the 50cal harder to get than an mg34? You have to tech a certain way to get it vs getting it no matter how you tech? I mean... It's pretty straightforward frankly... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Conscript PPSH assault package7 Nov 2020, 17:27 PM Jump back to quoted post7 Nov 2020, 17:19 PMgbem 1. thats not how facts work.... 2. survivability matters to all squads not just CQC squads 3. i think mobility matters more for cqc squads than survivability... but instead of arguing why you think survivability matters more you instead like a half decent person you suddenly start insulting... Survivability is more important for units that can't sit behind cover to deal their optimal dps. You'll notice that most long range squads function with 4 man squads while most assault units are pooched if they have a small squad size. Matter of fact ass engies got an extra model specifically because of that. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Conscript PPSH assault package7 Nov 2020, 01:09 AM Jump back to quoted post6 Nov 2020, 18:45 PMSkysTheLimit Exactly. Some fools just want every upgrade to be an obvious no-brainer. Basicly every single weapon upgrade since WFA reinforces that it's the norm unfortunately. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: The maxim thread7 Nov 2020, 01:06 AM Jump back to quoted post6 Nov 2020, 21:14 PMSerrith Its not "counter" to it at all... its just not necessary for it. As long as a model isn't killed before the squad is supressed, more damage is always beneficial. So you know... for the mg42, having 40dps long range wouldn't be a drawback despite the fact that 40 long range dps is an absolutely absurd amount. Unnecessary with the potential of ruining the job feels counter to the units role to me. Jump back to quoted post6 Nov 2020, 23:21 PMPip As Elchino7 has said, this idea that the Vickers does "Lots of damage" is due to it's low suppression. At least according to Stein's chart it does less damage than the HMG42, it's just that it's low suppression means it kills a model before it manages to suppress (Which reduces damage by half) Reducing it's damage would not strictly be a "buff", it would be a nerf that "fixes" a somewhat unintended side effect. I mean, the counter to MGs isn't to run squads full of low HP models at them, hoping the delay between killing them will prevent it suppressing you in time, after all. Its both frankly. Anytime ANYBODY complains about the vickers not suppressing people will chime up about how it kills more though! Perhaps the phrasing should be damage relative to suppression rate? At any rate the mg42 might do more damage as said but the vickers DEALS more damage and that contributes to the fuckery of it not doing its job. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Lack of friendly fire6 Nov 2020, 17:15 PM My favorite oops of removing friendly fire from coh2 is that a team mate can AT gun your base to death and it is literally impossible to stop then because bases don't count as far as being immune to friendly fire... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Conscript PPSH assault package6 Nov 2020, 17:12 PM Jump back to quoted post6 Nov 2020, 15:09 PMAerohank I think conscript Ppsh upgrade is fine. Way better designed than some other no-brainer no-downside weapon upgrades. Bingo! Con ppsh feels bad because it comes from a time when choices mattered and things had drawbacks. Ppsh doest increase dps at all ranges, in the move, ignore cover and grant a fuel air drop in base everything it kills a model so it seems weak in comparison. Obviously the fuel thing was hyperbole but we now have a game where lmgs which were designed to be defensive weapons that offset small squad sizes can be dual wielded on the move by 5 and 6 man squads. If course an upgrade that you actually have to think about if you want to convert an OK at all ranges squad into a trash at all ranges but close squad. Everything is relative In: COH2 Balance