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Thread: Light indirect fire (mostly in team games)21 Dec 2017, 22:33 PM Jump back to quoted post21 Dec 2017, 12:46 PMDerKuhlmann Indirect can be countered by simply pressing right click on your mouse. Yes and no. Part of the problem with indirect fire os oddly enough the scatter on autofire. It can fairly reliably hit and hurt or kill advancing units (arguably better than it can static units because of that same scatter... ) I sincerely think the game would be better off without auto fire on this things but an almost nonexistant cooldown on barrage. Rewarding players for simply spending manpower and next to nothing outside that is kinda against the whole idea of "tactical" RTS In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Soviet conscript flair killing models21 Dec 2017, 22:23 PM I could be wrong here but im all but CERTAIN it was nerfed to no longer kill models outright and now only does like 20 damage (i dont recall because its NEVER used in game...ever....) Either way 10 mu to kill a model and provide LOS vs 30mu to kill 2 models or snare tanks... Its cost IS inline with its performance In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Soviet conscript flair killing models17 Dec 2017, 22:04 PM Its already underused, over accessible and underwhelming and you want no nerf it? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: German arty OP ?23 Nov 2017, 00:08 AM Jump back to quoted post22 Nov 2017, 21:08 PMZombiFrancis I am assuming you mean the onmap, built artillery? And you said german, but i believe both the OKW and the OST versions are identical, with one being a clone of the other. that they are! a vet 5 OKW howitzer is no different than a vet 3 ost one, it gets the same buffs just later cause relic! In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [DBP] Royal Engineer Doctrine feedback thread21 Nov 2017, 21:12 PM Is it possible to introduce an ability that allows sappers to improve emplacments slightly more effectively when they garrison them? That could be thematic/interesting. The obvious counterplay being that it requires additional investment (the sappers themselves) and that they can take damage/casualties when garrisoned (meaning flames are ideal) In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Is OKW the Final Boss In This Game?20 Nov 2017, 10:13 AM Jump back to quoted post20 Nov 2017, 09:37 AMjagd wölfe Cons don't pay any extra for molotov..it's all factored into a tree which cost as much fuel as okw tree. I would just cut 15 fuel from the price It's 55 fuel, way too much for the null scaling it has. 40 fuel is honest considering small arms fire weaknesses and that any faction gets atg still much before. If the "creeping rack" gets green shield and on par accuracy/ range i'm ok For 40 fuel and 250mp as a soviet player you can unlock a snare and molitov for cons, for 40 fuel (im sorry i dont recall the MP for the okw teching) as okw you can unlock your better (but more expensive) version of the molitov, a faust, a soft retreat point, 4 new units (for a total of 7 units to chose from, including indirect fire, an MG, AT and recon units) and a weapon upgrade for volks if thats a factored in cost someone is getting royally screwed... 40 fuel could make it a good opportunity buy, i would embrace a trial of that at the very least, i just feel that in the few times i HAVE built one its hit and miss for small arms, its going to push off anything without AT ANYWAYS i feel like having to top its health up all the time just makes it more unattractive and besides if the m5 can be bulletproof and fotm i dont see why the flak trak would be broken when requiring to be stationary (even as an upgrade like the m20) Being able to ambush from friendly territory, garrison and retreat are all fantastic advantages for an AT gun that costs as little as it does, being able to creep into enemy territory and hunt vulnerable targets (katys and ambulances) only to then retreat is extremely powerful, much more so than its price point should allow. Plus its just cheesy and lame, particularly cancerous in team games. If for some reason the 270mp unit feels underwhelming losing its Jaeger role id be open to a counter buff, but ultimately being able to COH1 sniper but with OHK vehicles is a bad mechanic In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Is OKW the Final Boss In This Game?20 Nov 2017, 09:16 AM I wouldnt mind seeing the lava nade move to sturms (maybe as a vet 1?, maybe a COST reduction at vet 1?) As aaide from the first engagment or 2 they really lose their "elite sturm status" in favour of "lets patch that tank up in 6 seconds flat" mode and i think flame nade is TOO accesable on volks (yes cons have one, but they pay a bit extra for that and besides, asymmetric balance or something like that) T1 i think could be addressed by making the flak trak a smaller target size and/or immune to small arms. Its a great, fun unit but its already got enough drawbacks (the tech, requires deployment, low health) that i dont think it needs to be counterable by rifle fire. It needs to offer an attractive alternative to the luchs i think (or be attractive at ALL i guess) vs just nerfing the luchs, whom as light tanks go i THINK is balanced. But aside from do it all volks and creeping death raks (them i think should only be able to camo in friendly territory) okw is MOSTLY fine. Tweaking those aould offer a better view of what IS strong/weak instead of JUST volks all the god damned time In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Company of Artillery20 Nov 2017, 08:58 AM Jump back to quoted post20 Nov 2017, 03:36 AMLoopDloop Lolol. Seriously though, for a long time I've thought that the soviet mortar should be the gold standard for indirect fire, and maybe even then nerfing it all more. Mortars shouldn't be able to autofire moving squads from halfway across the map and hit 9/10 times. I remember the first day of the completely untested USF mortar. First game i got into with it its first (and i mean FIRST) shot wiped the enemy sturm squad But agreed. Imo they shouldnt be set and forget all purpose support. They should be for clearing static Strong points for christ sake... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Arty in DBP20 Nov 2017, 08:37 AM To kill a panther you need nearly as many shots (assumimg they all pen, but with 320 armour and in live up to 352 armour and an extra hits worth of health) as it would take to kill all of the katys. The panther was nerfed because it was a tank that was more durable than a pershing, but not limited in any way other than cost. Do i agree with the nerf? No but i understand it because 6 panthers is a durable, long ranged, high pen, muli mg death squad. If the enemy GETS there you deserve to lose and you WILL becauae there isnt a counter to it. No off map, no number of tanks will save you. Meanwhile those katys would have to run from a literal kuble. They could be killed by any single- ANY single off map (well maybe not stuka flame bombs, but any other one) can kill a katy. But just TRYING to follow how you can compare the second most durable unit that is non doc to one of the squishiest certainly helps me understand how the enemy managed to pull this over on you. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Arty in DBP20 Nov 2017, 07:34 AM Its a team game and nobody had any form of infiltration unit, or close air or lefh? Also if you build 6 of anything and are LET leave it unchecked its going to screw things up.... Build 6 werfers and do the same (then OBVIOUSLY nerf them) or wolf pack 6 p4s (they actually kill shit then!) Or build 6 lefh/ml20s the gaul to think "i got hugly outplayed so this needs nerfed is almost unbelievable... In: COH2 Balance