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Thread: [Winter Balance Update] UKF Feedback11 Dec 2020, 11:51 AM Jump back to quoted post11 Dec 2020, 11:16 AMSander93 USF would save 70mp and 10fu, Soviets would save 20mp. They cost 3 population too while UKF is already pop heavy. Only the number of medic does not effect the speed so one can kill model and then the only cost 1 pop Jump back to quoted post11 Dec 2020, 11:16 AMSander93 The healing isn't that fast (significantly slower than automatron medics) That depend on number of entities and thus it a much more efficient way to heal for soviets units Jump back to quoted post11 Dec 2020, 11:16 AMSander93 and they can't reinforce. Make little difference when base healing. If one is healing out side base, then I have to point out, that it much "safer" unit to use for healing because they have a better chance to retreat and service than Ambulance or HT and comes at cheap price and no fuel. Jump back to quoted post11 Dec 2020, 11:16 AMSander93 The healing does stack with multiple medic squads, but with having to move there all the time this won't save much/any time, and we can probably remove this anyway if needed. Hardly abusive. If people want to work together with these kinds of things they should be allowed/encouraged to do so. Then the question is why do only UKF get this and not all factions? They already have the best of two worlds with automatron medics from FA healing and Aura healing from tommies so there is no real for the unit to be available in the first place as stock. It also makes the FRP/healing option for UKF allot cheaper. Jump back to quoted post11 Dec 2020, 11:16 AMSander93 Ostheer can also build a medic bunker for a Mechanized OKW player. Yes the can, and UKF already can with FA healing. I have not yet heard a singe reason (that makes sence) for this unit to be available stock to UKF In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] UKF Feedback11 Dec 2020, 10:52 AM Jump back to quoted post11 Dec 2020, 10:32 AMOlfin Ok then change the sentence free healing with unlimited healing. Ambulance cost alot more. still looks unbalanced, I didn't say I want them to remove it , I just think it needs some tuning, anyway I hope they will make the right choices to make this game more balanced and enjoyable for all factions. It should simply be removed. It can easily be abused to create multiple medic and be used to heal allied troops fast and cheap. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] UKF Feedback11 Dec 2020, 09:28 AM Jump back to quoted post11 Dec 2020, 08:59 AMOlfin Now the British medics heal in the same speed of ambulance and they cost only 180 manpower and they don't cost fuel as shown here https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMJFmZl8aYOdN6HsHjwHcrsLiiRQp3ID8 , this is not balanced at all. Suggestions: 1- Their cost should be increased to match their new performance. 2- Their healing speed should be decreased. The unit should simply not be available stock to UKF, they already have some of best healing option in the game. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: It's time for Main Gun Crits to go11 Dec 2020, 08:03 AM Jump back to quoted post11 Dec 2020, 07:38 AMSneakEye We mean the same, My apologies, I misread "they need more hits" confused me. (I would use they have higher ROF so they inflict more hits.) Jump back to quoted post11 Dec 2020, 07:38 AMSneakEye The weapon types that can trigger a crit are set per vehicle. The Puma can indeed get its main gun crit from MG's. I have not yet found others, but there might be more. I am pretty sure I have seen critical from HMG in SU-76/AEC/222/251 maybe it is the AP rounds? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: It's time for Main Gun Crits to go11 Dec 2020, 07:27 AM Jump back to quoted post11 Dec 2020, 07:16 AMSneakEye A penetrated shot below 25% hp has 10% chance to trigger the main gun crit. PTRS rifles deal less damage than other weapons so they need more hits which gives them more chances to apply the crit. Cant say that agree. The issue here is what happens once that threshold is reached. Then simply large number of shot fire increases the chance of critical. 1 penetrating shot from an ATG will do 160 and have 10% chance to cause a critical 4 shots from PTRS will also do 160 but will have 34% to cause a critical. Jump back to quoted post11 Dec 2020, 07:16 AMSneakEye Small arms and flame types are excluded from the critical on most units, but indeed the Puma can get a gun crit caused by small arms (bug or intended?). Handheld AT and tank guns both have the type 'ballistic'. That means that handheld weapons cannot be excluded separately without changing the type and that would affect the damage to ambient buildings. However, a PTRS rifle has a complex implementation. Its default damage is 14. On vehicles it applies 26 additional damage when penetrated. On structures it has 13 more damage. This apply_damage action has a setting 'cause_criticals' which in true for vehicles. I wonder if this additional action actually multiplies the crit chance? I am under the impression that HMG can cause critical to vehicles on penetration. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: It's time for Main Gun Crits to go11 Dec 2020, 07:02 AM PTRS causing critical can become a problem when blob as I also have pointed. They should probably be removed from the weapon. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] SOV Feedback11 Dec 2020, 06:56 AM Jump back to quoted post11 Dec 2020, 05:34 AMEtherealDragon Yup that's why in Tightrope's test video PTRS Penals did less damage to infantry than in live! They increased PTRS accuracy so that in theory their AI damage is the same as live but now that their SVT damage in concentrated on 3 models you notice a faster drop off in AI damage as they bleed models. The end result is they are worse off at AI since you're relying on low percentage PTRS shots against infantry at <4 models. So yeah, they are less blobable now if you counter them with infantry and don't try to A move tanks into PTRS blobs. Not really: All that makes a Penal blolb of 4-5 squad (1-2 PTRS ones) allot most cost efficient in the patch than in live. PTRS penal have low AI due to the accuracy of the weapon. They also lose allot of AI when they drop models because PTRS transfer. That is all correct. On the other hand they get allot of accuracy with veterancy and vet 1 ability increases their stat when they lose. The problem do not really start until they vet 3 the same the problem really start 7 men conscripts. And on top of that there are number of doctrinal option to boost accuracy. There PTRS can also destroy enemy cover and help them in "trench warfare". In sort PTRS penal AT is good enough and their AI is superior to most other AT infantries. ------------------------------------------------ We can debate their balance as long as you like but that is not the problem. The problem is their design. A unit that carries a whole soviet faction a is faction with most infantries available to them is simply bad design. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Infantry, mortars and MGs: relationship and scaling. 11 Dec 2020, 06:40 AM Jump back to quoted post10 Dec 2020, 22:44 PMporkloin Soldier fought in the trenches did not stay in them for protection from artillery. When ever there was shelling they moved into bunkers. Prior to any attack heavy shelling was used for even days but the logistic of shelling the enemy 24/7 made it impossible at the time. Even so artillery was the weapon that causes most deaths in WWI. (at least in western front where there was trench warfare, the eastern front was more fluid) In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Infantry, mortars and MGs: relationship and scaling. 10 Dec 2020, 22:34 PM Jump back to quoted post10 Dec 2020, 22:27 PMporkloin WWI was a war of trenches. It was thought it could be won strictly through artillery in the same way people thought WWII could be won solely through air power. If the stoke's mortar was so great for entrenched positions why were they used for the entirety of the war? You mean why trenches where used through out the war? Because barbwire and HMG stop all attacks. In the start of WWI cavalry charges existed and they stopped to exist with few day and the was no replacement of cavalry chargers in sight. Attack could not be launched successfully until the invention of Gas and then the invention of Tanks. So the fought an attrition war of bombing each other. Mortar are quite accurate, German crew during WWII even manage to land shells inside open top US TD... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Infantry, mortars and MGs: relationship and scaling. 10 Dec 2020, 22:23 PM As to how to implement this is probably quite easy. One has to follow the hand held AT model and reduce damage but add damage vs vehicles. It even makes sense, an AT doing extra damage to vehicle... In: COH2 Balance