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M26 Pershing performance discussion

16 Oct 2015, 04:27 AM
#21
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960hp and 300 armour doesn't warrant a single call in restriction, unless it gets over 1,000 health like the other heavy tanks.


So it can only take one less ATG shot. If it has 50 range, good firepower and better mobility?

It's not meant to be an IS-2 or Tiger clone, but just because it isn't does not mean the restrictions shouldn't apply. Do we want the heavy tank call-in meta to return?
16 Oct 2015, 04:39 AM
#22
avatar of Nabarxos

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i believe the pershing will be a comet clone limited to one.

the only thing that will be OP about this new commander will be rangers
16 Oct 2015, 04:43 AM
#23
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So it can only take one less ATG shot. If it has 50 range, good firepower and better mobility?

It's not meant to be an IS-2 or Tiger clone, but just because it isn't does not mean the restrictions shouldn't apply. Do we want the heavy tank call-in meta to return?


when did the Heavy callin meta die??

just because people cant bring another IS-2/Tiger into battle doesnt mean the heavy callin meta has died

16 Oct 2015, 05:02 AM
#24
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The heavy call in meta never died. It remains in larger game modes.
16 Oct 2015, 05:24 AM
#25
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Patrion 14

Posts: 542 | Subs: 1

Whats going to happen: 1) Relic wants to milk the fanboys
2) They release commanders OP as hell for a whole month
3) 1 month because they don't want to start losing the playerbase
4) They balance it after a month of receiving fanboy money.


This is exactly what happens every single time new commanders are released.
Money has to be made somehow, right?
16 Oct 2015, 05:36 AM
#26
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jump backJump back to quoted post16 Oct 2015, 05:24 AMLümmel


This is exactly what happens every single time new commanders are released.
Money has to be made somehow, right?

lol just hope they keep the tank durable cuz USF already have enough cardboard ronson cookers that cant withstand the wide array of godlike AT that the axis have
16 Oct 2015, 05:37 AM
#27
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You guys took the bait hook line and sinker... Of course with a title like that...

16 Oct 2015, 05:51 AM
#28
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lol just hope they keep the tank durable cuz USF already have enough cardboard ronson cookers that cant withstand the wide array of godlike AT that the axis have

Expect to run into the Pak-43 when using this commander, especially the first few days. Pershing will be pretty much paper to that thing. This doctrine leaves USF with woeful indirect fire (only the nerfed Pak Howitzer), so the only option for killing that thing will be solid infantry micro with Rifles, Rangers, and an abundance of smoke.
16 Oct 2015, 06:12 AM
#29
avatar of JohnnyB

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One cannot talk about performance in advance without thinking at the real thing and comparing it to its german counterparts. But since this is a historicaly INaccurate game, we cannot make any speculation.
16 Oct 2015, 07:41 AM
#30
avatar of hallolinski

Posts: 76

thick front armor
slow
long reload
powerful main gun
less AI than panther

EDIT: wait a minute... on the website it states: "This unit is effective against all targets." now i am confused, it will be powerful against AI as well???? o_O
16 Oct 2015, 07:43 AM
#31
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thick front armor
slow
long reload
powerful main gun
less AI than panther

if it can take more hits than a sherman and packs enough punch to take on tigers and panthers thats good enough for me
16 Oct 2015, 07:48 AM
#32
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Whats going to happen: 1) Relic wants to milk the fanboys
2) They release commanders OP as hell for a whole month
3) 1 month because they don't want to start losing the playerbase
4) They balance it after a month of receiving fanboy money.


If it's crap or not buy buy
16 Oct 2015, 07:53 AM
#33
avatar of wandererraven

Posts: 353

COH mod Tool have only M3 90 mm Data
Dmg 160
pen 220/240/260 (better than M36 )
Reload 6.1 sec
16 Oct 2015, 07:55 AM
#34
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High chance it´s just a copy pasted Tiger/IS-2 clone with minor differences. Probably gains 50 range at vet2. :snfCHVGame:
16 Oct 2015, 08:56 AM
#35
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It should be like the comet/panther imo. A clunky slow ass tank just doesn't fit the USF faction.

Additionally it needs to be limited to one and vehicle crews need to be disabled for the Pershing so you can't bypass the limit.


if it should be like a comet/panther, why it should be limited to one??? just asking.
16 Oct 2015, 09:24 AM
#36
avatar of hallolinski

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jump backJump back to quoted post16 Oct 2015, 08:56 AMFul4n0


if it should be like a comet/panther, why it should be limited to one??? just asking.


no it should not be like comet/panther, it should be different. as discussed earlier, main objective is being a damage sponge and a combined arms unit. Coment tank isn't a combined arms unit at all and panther also not that much.

pershing tank alone should not be very useful, but combined with a faster tank for flanking and guarded by some inf --> powerful!

it should be a mix between firefly and churchill.

slow
thick armor
powerful gun
no AI

16 Oct 2015, 10:02 AM
#37
avatar of Australian Magic

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Pershing is not true heavy tank, therefore it should be treated like something between medium and heavy.


HP: 800 (1040 with vet 2).
Armor: 300-340.
Slower than Tiger.
Should be better than Panther for AI, but worse than Tiger.
Turret rotation should be very good, way faste than Tiger's.
Medicore penetration, like 180/200/220.
40 range, 50 with vet 2.

But that's just my opinion.
16 Oct 2015, 10:49 AM
#38
avatar of F1sh

Posts: 521

It should be the Tiger and IS-2 combined, with the Jadgtiger's damage. American technology was far ahead of the rest of the world, so the Pershing should reflect that.
16 Oct 2015, 11:20 AM
#39
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jump backJump back to quoted post16 Oct 2015, 07:55 AMButcher
High chance it´s just a copy pasted Tiger/IS-2 clone with minor differences. Probably gains 50 range at vet2. :snfCHVGame:



I'm going to tell you that it's not . It has 50 range stock.


It has 800 HP, not 1040 like tiger/IS-2.


The pershing will be a slower comet with the same armor, but more penetration and pucnh againts inf.
16 Oct 2015, 11:37 AM
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