Panzer 4 Command Tank is Overperforming

Jump back to quoted post15 Sep 2015, 19:06 PMmomo4sho

It was not a lie and I have instances of a pz4 command tank beating an m4a3 sherman in my broadcasts. I will try to look for it and link it here later.

Jump back to quoted post15 Sep 2015, 18:59 PMmomo4sho

So what does 20% less damage actually mean? 20% more health

You are doing a great job at making yourself look incompetent.

Jump back to quoted post15 Sep 2015, 20:47 PMLemonJuice

For the record the exact buff is 20% reduction in damage, which equates to 25% additional effective health. 20% damage reduce does not equal 20% more effective hp.

Jump back to quoted post15 Sep 2015, 21:25 PMRMMLz

I'm not really good at stats and math and shit, could you please explain?

Jump back to quoted post15 Sep 2015, 21:31 PMFiresparks

1/.80 = 1.25

or to give example.

a 80 hp unit will take 4 shots from a 20 damage gun before dying

the same 80 hp unit will take 5 shots from a 16 (20*.80 = 16) damage bun before dying.

therefore, a .80 received damage increase your hp by 25%.

Jump back to quoted post16 Sep 2015, 01:41 AMAppleseed

my suggestion on it is move to both T3 and T4, so give OH player a choice, not force to go T3 to have command tank and only P4 in the game. usually in 1v1 OH player need choose between T3 and T4, because they can't afford to have both.

Jump back to quoted post16 Sep 2015, 08:41 AMRiCE

So whats the point locking it behind teching?
The tank cannot fight with other tanks. No one will pull a command panzer as their first vehicle. In practice you choose T3 or T4, build a normal tank, THEN call in a P4 to receive aura boost.

Jump back to quoted post16 Sep 2015, 08:41 AMRiCE

So whats the point locking it behind teching?
The tank cannot fight with other tanks. No one will pull a command panzer as their first vehicle. In practice you choose T3 or T4, build a normal tank, THEN call in a P4 to receive aura boost.

Jump back to quoted post16 Sep 2015, 08:56 AMFiresparks

actually the command panzer is useful as your first tanks.

the main gun is still useful against any light vehicle and infantry. The extra durability make it useful as meatshield for paks/schrecks, in addition to directly boosting their durability.

Jump back to quoted post16 Sep 2015, 09:09 AMKatitof

Actually, you get pak wall, command tank and stall for T4.
Its extremely old strat that only got more valid with the aura changes.

Command tank ensures your squads won't be one shotted by nades or mortars, your infantry can fend off opponents more easily, your AT guns aren't decrewed easily unless directly hit by some big guns.

So no, it does make perfect sense to get command tank as first armor and it was perfectly valid since forever.

Jump back to quoted post16 Sep 2015, 11:56 AMMr. Someguy

It's fine, it should just die in 4 hits like a normal Panzer IV. Either lower his health to 512 or remove the buff on himself.

Jump back to quoted post16 Sep 2015, 12:19 PMKatitof

You have the very explanation why it doesn't die in 4 hits like a normal P4 in this very thread.
Its effective health is on panther/KV-1 level, it needs 5 penetrating hits from AT gun to die.

Jump back to quoted post16 Sep 2015, 12:19 PMKatitof

You have the very explanation why it doesn't die in 4 hits like a normal P4 in this very thread.
Its effective health is on panther/KV-1 level, it needs 5 penetrating hits from AT gun to die.