Thx for doing this.
Since i had no time i just went to the bottom. Tho i knew already what you will say / what's your opinion about seeking is.
Which number is the sniper action on eindhoven? Seeking wehrmacht.
I miss the whole section about the looking in fow difference between stream games / ref watching him and the off stream games.
I had the same idea about watching other replays. I did that already in past with my own replay. I use wasd / arrows for the camera. But i almost never look in fow.
About your links at the end. What is the sense?
1. What is your point there?
2. Wehrmacht panther has scopes i guess so he saw the at guns before.
3. The "building" from the pathfinder showed momo the sniper on the minimap
Nobody would say based on any of this clips that there was cheating... Imo there is a huge difference between seeking stuff and your 3 links. But again i had also the idea about if someone could do it with other topplayers. Curious what you will find. Must be new replays and in a short duration
ML4 vs noggano and devm were in Cup games without a ref. So there is the motivation.
Why in automatch? They were training for the comming 2vs2 cup. One could say he made it to make a psychical pressure on other teams. If you lose every time or very often vs a team already in automatch, you are more scared in cups vs this people. You start losing a fight, if your brain is already thinking that you lost.
--> So all in all. Thank you for doing this. But this looks for me onesided from you. Which is ok, if you want to make your standpoint stronger and clear.
P.S on my document there is a link to most of the replays(as you asked for replays)
You already knew what I would say because of my opinion of Seeking? I barely know him. I've never played with or against him (that I know of/remember) and have only cast a few of his games during one of Currahee's tournaments. But all right.
Do you mean the sniper going for a counter snipe with the recon run on Eindhoven? Maybe I can dig up the replay or get a longer clip of that but I'll try to add it tomorrow if I have time.
I would have to look at any difference in the way he plays/looks into the fog at another time. This document was already quite time consuming and I don't have to time to dig deeply into that right now. Maybe I can tackle it another day if people are interested. I have looked at it briefly, but it is going to be difficult because some clips are played at 1/4 speed, some at half, some at normal, some at 2x, etc. Also people are going to play differently in a tournament setting versus automatch or scrim games.
Just because you never look into the fog with WASD doesn't mean other people won't. This is a non-starter kind of point to make. It's not like every tactical map player plays exactly the same. Me mentioning the WASD camera movement was to point out that his camera movement will naturally look different than a tact map player, and since he has to order units on his screen (rather than tact map or minimap), he's going to "look" at the fog more... not because he's looking - because he's ordering movement. There are numerous examples of: look at a spot, 0.5 seconds later a nearby unit is moving towards that spot.
As for the links at the end, I'm not accusing anyone of maphacking, I'm just pointing out some moments that *could* be taken as suspicious to show that weird things happen in CoH2. In the first clip the REs are a pixel outside of MG range, if some one were actively looking for map hack evidence, they would probably point to this. You are adding the context of spotting scopes to the panther in the second clip. If we had only seen 10-15 seconds of a dive bomb landing on cloaked AT guns, it might look suspicious. Again, you're adding context to the third clip - which is exactly my point. Out of context, benign things can look suspicious when in reality they aren't.
Correct, the motivation would be there for tournament games, but those seemed like the least suspicious clips (except MAYBE the AssGrens sprinting). I was saying that most (not all, just most) of the evidence used comes from automatch where there would be little to no motivation. A tournament veteran shouldn't get "psyched out" by losing some games (they won some games too from what I understand) in automatch. That argument is borderline conspiracy theory territory.
I'll see about going through the google doc now that you added the replays (much appreciated by the way). Unfortunately the naming convention is awkward so it would take some time to get to a specific replay.