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12 Jan 2021, 21:38 PM
#681
avatar of WAAAGH2000

Posts: 730

UKF Tommy and Engineer default population maybe should reduce by 1,after NERF Tommy it 5 men squad not good as other factions elite infantry
Or 5men upgrade like Soviet,after T2 auto unlock but single squad need cost ammo increase squad size,cost 1 weapon slot,and Tommy rifle damage back to 16
12 Jan 2021, 23:21 PM
#682
avatar of Descolata

Posts: 486

Thats somewhat necessary already, as UKF needs to run 2 engineers and no less than 3 sections late game. The Cromwell could also do with pop move from 13->12 to coordinate with its price.
13 Jan 2021, 01:32 AM
#683
avatar of Descolata

Posts: 486

Can the Recon Sweep from the Assault Officer ACTUALLY go directly over the officer's head instead of a sliiiiiight counter-clockwise off direction sweep? makes aiming recon deep in enemy territory REALLY HARD, which is bad for 50 mun.

I think the problem is the Loiter radius. its currently 15, try setting it to 0.

Also, the British airplane sweep is WEIRD, the plane flys at 50 height instead of ~20 of other recon planes.
13 Jan 2021, 07:50 AM
#684
avatar of Vipper

Posts: 13476 | Subs: 1

Can the Recon Sweep from the Assault Officer ACTUALLY go directly over the officer's head instead of a sliiiiiight counter-clockwise off direction sweep? makes aiming recon deep in enemy territory REALLY HARD, which is bad for 50 mun.

I think the problem is the Loiter radius. its currently 15, try setting it to 0.

Also, the British airplane sweep is WEIRD, the plane flys at 50 height instead of ~20 of other recon planes.

Was it not fixed here?:

"Fixed an issue where the Officer Recon Sweeps for the British were invulnerable and had no entity."
14 Jan 2021, 00:13 AM
#685
avatar of Clarity

Posts: 479

If Brits struggle really badly in ML4 would it be possible to move the AT nade the Sappers have to the Infantry Sections. If that makes Tommy spam too strong then maybe make it so Brits start with a Sapper instead of a Section so there is one less squad running around since they are really strong once bolstered. This way Brits have something to deal with fast light vehicles if they don't have the AEC and would maybe make non-AEC builds more viable in 1v1. Also if the AEC timing is now slightly too slow I would remove the extra 15 seconds of build time that was added but keep the capping bonus nerfs.
14 Jan 2021, 17:47 PM
#686
avatar of TomDRV

Posts: 112

Can the Recon Sweep from the Assault Officer ACTUALLY go directly over the officer's head instead of a sliiiiiight counter-clockwise off direction sweep? makes aiming recon deep in enemy territory REALLY HARD, which is bad for 50 mun.

I think the problem is the Loiter radius. its currently 15, try setting it to 0.

Also, the British airplane sweep is WEIRD, the plane flys at 50 height instead of ~20 of other recon planes.


The recon sweep is a point and click which direction you want it go thing.

If they've changed it to one like the USA recon loiter I'd like it to be reversed.
14 Jan 2021, 19:20 PM
#687
avatar of Descolata

Posts: 486

I need to check when i get off work, but on live its point and click about 15° left of where the plane goes. Thats generally fine as its 50 height and massive vision make it effectively unstoppable.
15 Jan 2021, 06:40 AM
#688
avatar of Descolata

Posts: 486

Just verified, plane is still almost exactly 10 degrees clockwise from targeted direction.
15 Jan 2021, 07:19 AM
#689
avatar of Descolata

Posts: 486

.... it looks like the plane always flys over the counter-clockwise direction of the targeting icon at about a radius of about 15. Not sure why.
15 Jan 2021, 19:21 PM
#690
avatar of Stug life

Posts: 4474

.... it looks like the plane always flys over the counter-clockwise direction of the targeting icon at about a radius of about 15. Not sure why.
report it on the bug section
22 Jan 2021, 01:28 AM
#691
avatar of theekvn

Posts: 306

Watching ML4 and boy, UKF is shit again
22 Jan 2021, 19:00 PM
#692
avatar of Stug life

Posts: 4474

jump backJump back to quoted post22 Jan 2021, 01:28 AMtheekvn
Watching ML4 and boy, UKF is shit again

>soviet are op and have 70% win rate
>axis in the gutter

obviously ukf is the UP one
23 Jan 2021, 21:18 PM
#693
avatar of SupremeStefan

Posts: 1220

Can someone explain why stock brits are still easliy beaten by double pupchen/pak i mean what the fuck? Meantime stuka zu fuz can rape all your team weapons atcp4 and push you from fuel = no fast tank to dive
"Balanced"
23 Jan 2021, 21:57 PM
#694
avatar of elchino7
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Posts: 8154 | Subs: 2


>soviet are op and have 70% win rate
>axis in the gutter

obviously ukf is the UP one


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-ptwn9N11mZSocSJcL8xTQFrI8knU86DWoOL7OnCXjo/edit#gid=101410045

Not even close

And this is with a terminator format tournament.
24 Jan 2021, 07:02 AM
#695
avatar of mrgame2

Posts: 1793



https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-ptwn9N11mZSocSJcL8xTQFrI8knU86DWoOL7OnCXjo/edit#gid=101410045

Not even close

And this is with a terminator format tournament.


wow axis trailing clearly. i hope this convince the balance team the new patch was too aggressive in nerfing wehrboo based on the last wc2020. wehrboo is facing massive loss of AI/infantry combat.

i geddit that ukf gets no love, but i dont think it is a weak faction, just boring and usf and sov fits better in aggressive 1v1.
24 Jan 2021, 11:03 AM
#696
24 Jan 2021, 12:14 PM
#697
avatar of Tygrys

Posts: 103


Who cares ? Its 1v1


The people who "balance" the game care. Despite what they'll be telling you here those changes are focused on 1v1. This has been the case in CoH1, in CoH2 when Relic was still around and it is now.
26 Jan 2021, 09:05 AM
#698
avatar of elchino7
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Posts: 8154 | Subs: 2

If UKF was an Axis faction, the forums would had implode by the end of the tournament.

Guess we are back at WCS 1 levels of performance and we still circle around the same original problems the factions has.
26 Jan 2021, 11:58 AM
#699
avatar of Lady Xenarra

Posts: 940

UKF did get pummelled in the win rates for this tournament. Why is that? Did the nerfs to the UC cost and capping speed hurt them that much? (I haven't had time to go watch most of the matches.)
26 Jan 2021, 12:12 PM
#700
avatar of Vipper

Posts: 13476 | Subs: 1

UKF did get pummelled in the win rates for this tournament. Why is that? Did the nerfs to the UC cost and capping speed hurt them that much? (I haven't had time to go watch most of the matches.)

I am under the impression that they actually did better than they did in previous tournaments where they where not picked at all...
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