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High Skill USF gameplay is just so micro intensive

8 Apr 2020, 16:14 PM
#41
avatar of SkysTheLimit

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Perhaps you could do something as basic as looking at ranks instead of taking offense for others.


Pretty ironic thing to say seeing as you took "Riflemen snare is also bugged" as me saying L2P...
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What's the issue here? A blob got countered. They make it easier for your MGs early and your rocket arty later if they blob up THAT much
8 Apr 2020, 16:16 PM
#42
avatar of T.R. Stormjäger

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Pretty ironic thing to say seeing as you took "Riflemen snare is also bugged" as me saying L2P...



???

I agree that it’s bugged and annoying lol, just said fausts missing isn’t infrequent.
8 Apr 2020, 16:18 PM
#43
avatar of BlueKnight

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Now imagine this shit but they have like 90% moving DPS and 6 men for some reason, flares to spot your MGs, and you have no rocket arty. Welcome to playing against pfusies.

Actually they don't have to use the flares because they have bonus sight from G43 upgrade. The rest is 100% true doe.
8 Apr 2020, 16:20 PM
#44
avatar of SkysTheLimit

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???

I agree that it’s bugged and annoying lol, just said fausts missing isn’t infrequent.


I did say in my experience. Haven't gotten lucky recently as allies/unlucky as axis I guess. At least not in that way lol

I just try to avoid saying L2P no matter what the context. So didnt understand how it could be taken that way
8 Apr 2020, 16:21 PM
#45
avatar of IntoTheRain

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"A guy blobbed me instead of finding a nonexisting flanking path on Crossing in the Woods and we won easily. Please nerf them anyway."
8 Apr 2020, 16:23 PM
#46
avatar of Vipper

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Now imagine this shit but they have like 90% moving DPS and 6 men for some reason, flares to spot your MGs, and you have no rocket arty. Welcome to playing against pfusies.

That is simply incorrect PF do not have 90% DPS when moving. They have (0/10/20/35):
0.77/0.78/0.75/0.74


8 Apr 2020, 16:40 PM
#47
avatar of LoopDloop

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jump backJump back to quoted post8 Apr 2020, 16:23 PMVipper

That is simply incorrect PF do not have 90% DPS when moving. They have (0/10/20/35):
0.77/0.78/0.75/0.74



Play the game. They lose next to no DPS on the move. Seems that DPS calculations are oftentimes wonky too, but I don't really understand them to be fair. In any event, they're far better on the move than almost any other unit.
8 Apr 2020, 16:48 PM
#48
avatar of Vipper

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Play the game. They lose next to no DPS on the move.

I play the game.


Seems that DPS calculations are oftentimes wonky too, but I don't really understand them to be fair. In any event, they're far better on the move than almost any other unit.

Calculation are correct.
8 Apr 2020, 16:48 PM
#49
avatar of SuperHansFan

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I mentioned players who have 2 faction rankings at 50ish. I said Tightrope is 40-56ish, he has rank 48 ost, 43 sov, 63 okw and 56 usf. I said tootsy’s non-usf is 50ish, he has 55 Ost and 88 okw.

Perhaps you could do something as basic as looking at ranks instead of taking offense for others.


You should judge them by factions they play, because factions they don't will have drop ranks longer you don't play them

This is little to do with skill, if you don't play a faction after a couple weeks your rank degrades. Calling Tootsy top 80 player lol
8 Apr 2020, 16:48 PM
#50
avatar of JibberJabberJobber

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Play the game. They lose next to no DPS on the move. Seems that DPS calculations are oftentimes wonky too, but I don't really understand them to be fair. In any event, they're far better on the move than almost any other unit.


In typical Vipper style he doesn't mention all the details; he's implying not all squad members of Pfusi squads get the G43's which actually have close to 90% moving dps (looking at Cruzz his graphs).
8 Apr 2020, 16:51 PM
#51
avatar of T.R. Stormjäger

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You should judge them by factions they play, because factions they don't will have drop ranks longer you don't play them

This is little to do with skill, if you don't play a faction after a couple weeks your rank degrades. Calling Tootsy top 80 player lol


Do you have issues with english comprehension? Where did I call tootsty a top 80 player? Where did I mention skill? Where did I judge people?

Katitof asked me to mention 1 notable player in rank 50-100, I said there are notable players with at least 2 faction ranks in 50ish to 100 and then you jump in with the most off topic and irrelevant arguments. Can you kindly just back off?
8 Apr 2020, 16:53 PM
#52
avatar of Vipper

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In typical Vipper style he doesn't mention all the details; he's implying not all squad members of Pfusi squads get the G43's which actually have close to 90% moving dps (looking at Cruzz his graphs).

Now compare them with paratroopers that do get 6 m1a1.
(at 0/10/20/35)

0.58/0.67/0.78/0.83
8 Apr 2020, 16:53 PM
#53
avatar of LoopDloop

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In typical Vipper style he doesn't mention all the details; he's implying not all squad members of Pfusi squads get G43's.

I mean, they don't, but those kar98s become effectively irrelevant as soon as they get 3 g43s anyway.
8 Apr 2020, 16:53 PM
#54
avatar of blvckdream

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PSA: The intention of this thread was to show how skilful USF players are so please all admire their sheer brilliance instead of discussing ranks of 1v1 players.

Thank you.
8 Apr 2020, 16:56 PM
#56
avatar of T.R. Stormjäger

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PSA: The intention of this thread was to show how skilful USF players are so please all admire their sheer brilliance


Which is why I mentioned how easily I got to rank 74 in 1s by just blobbing thus agreeing to the issue you brought up, Katitof said truly good players are at the very top to invalidate my point, I disagreed and then someone came in with the most off topic senseless arguments.

Let’s spot the off topic guy: Hmmmmmmmmm
8 Apr 2020, 17:00 PM
#57
avatar of T.R. Stormjäger

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jump backJump back to quoted post8 Apr 2020, 16:23 PMVipper

That is simply incorrect PF do not have 90% DPS when moving. They have (0/10/20/35):
0.77/0.78/0.75/0.74




Just using your post as a stepping stone to refer to the okw side of blobbing, contrast to OP’s USF blob complaint.

The saving grace of Fusilier blobs is their high munitions cost for upgrade and terrible performance until that upgrade and bad synergy with Luchs and Puma since you need munis for medkits. All of this makes Fusilier blobs uncommon in 1v1. In 2v2+ that’s not as much of a problem so you see them way more.

I will say this: I think Pfusies should lose the 6th man if they are to get G43s. Keep them as they are but without the extra man with the recon package.
8 Apr 2020, 17:01 PM
#58
avatar of SuperHansFan

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Also there is a difference between tactical control groups and blobbing.

But the OP here confuses the two and thinks rifles shouldn't perform on the move. Rifles entire identity is mobile assaults in tactical groups to counter stronger axis support weapons. Without their BAR dps riflemen are toast.
8 Apr 2020, 17:25 PM
#59
avatar of blvckdream

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Also there is a difference between tactical control groups and blobbing.

But the OP here confuses the two and thinks rifles shouldn't perform on the move. Rifles entire identity is mobile assaults in tactical groups to counter stronger axis support weapons. Without their BAR dps riflemen are toast.


So what you are saying is that the thing you saw in the screenshot and video is actually not a blob but a tactical control group? :)
8 Apr 2020, 17:44 PM
#60
avatar of LoopDloop

Posts: 3053

PSA: The intention of this thread was to show how skilful USF players are so please all admire their sheer brilliance instead of discussing ranks of 1v1 players.

Thank you.

Wouldn't be a .org thread if it didn't instantly get off topic.
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