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The Ppsh was well overpowered before, it wasnt even a nerf, it was just an error correction.
Weather the Ppsh is now with new stats, a tiny little bit underpowered, well that is something you could potentially argue.
But not the 1st one. |
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Its hard to compare Guards directly with Grens too much, seen as they are doctrinal and +50% the price.
Yeah they have more men, better armour and some AT. But your paying for it.
And its not like Grens dont have faust.
In real game situation, guards will often face 2 grens, which may very well have g43 or LMG. |
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Oh that is interesting, I would like to see more about which certain units have higher/lower effectivness against buildings.
Certainly grens and PGs own them atm. |
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I didnt go down to paks, the 1st tank took one or two hits from the 1st pak on the field, reversed off, it got fausted by a Gren, and then the stug hunted it (protected by a pak).
My other 85 came in with mark target to take down the stug and flamer engies to deal with the pak.
He microed the stug quite well, and my 85 totally fucked up behaving erratically, like they do when theres stuff in their way.
So he outplayed me, and I was also a little unlucky.
But that does not change that he did the perfect build to counter my strat. Most other people get rolled by it and moan.
P4 takes much longer to get the fuel for, and has less raw AT power, so it does not stand a chance against mark target and 2 85s.
Where as a stug (played well), can dish out more raw AT, at long range, and be backed up by paks (to prevent circle strafe). Its perfect. You want to keep the 85s at arms length, and thats exactly what this combo of units does.
Then pak43.. you have no arty.. you could call a 120mm mortar, but this is expensive, and playing into the Germans hands by slowing down your fast assault... he wants a defensive game in this situation.
One major flaw, was that I couldnt afford AT nades, which hurt me. Im thinking of going down to 1 penal, and more cons to help with that. But its a shame, because I do like the DPS of penals vs Grens. |
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AT nades, then whatever else are the best way to bring down FHT.
Guards on their own are only a soft counter. Yeah after an AT nade, they will mince it.
I just had 4 out of 5 remaining guys in a Guard squad all sponteaneously combust to the 1st burst of a FHT.. but thats flames for yah. |
Just played a game where my opponent countered my T34/85s perfectly, using 2 paks and a stug initially (+faust).
I played ok, but the pressure the stug put on my 85s caused some terrible pathing from one which cost me it, still he did well with it.
Then later on, an aditional P4, and Pak43, made no way back in the game for me.
Very well played by my opponent, and perfectly demonstrates what Ive been saying about paks and stugs as a counter.
Heres the replay:
http://www.coh2.org/replays/11897/perfect-counter-to-t3485-spam. |
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Well, 10 mins is a long time to hang on defending, with no MP, a loooong time. In an equal game, your not gonna be able to reinforce, so just attack everywhere the tiger is not.
I feel it was more of a change for team games, where one ace ussually would cost the Germans the game.
Also, in a game long enough to go past 10 mins (after calling Ace), with a normal tiger doctrine, you quite probably called 2, if not 3 Tigers, all while reinforcing your army.
And SgtBulldog, I do belive it can be toned down.. simply by adding a call in cost, ontop of the resource block, something like 500 MP. So in a tight game, its really going to put the pain on your MP when you call it. But it still retains the same feel. |
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Yeah much worse than actual cover, which is a bit odd.. they should just give green cover, but in all direction imo.
Now its a case of spamming sandbangs if you need to hold a point.
They are much worse than buildings in coh1 were. |
Bit of a bad map, being North Winter Langreska as Soviets, but my opponent here perfectly countered T34/85 spam.
2 paks and a Stug is all you need to hold off the initial wave. One of my 85s did end up doing crazy pathing to get killed by the Stug, but that only happend because of the pressure his was able to put on with faust and stug.
Then later he brought in pak43s, which combined with existing AT, I knew it was only going to get worse, so I suicidal charged.
Perfect counter, wp  |
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Wow, well I know buildings were way too good before, but they are so weak now that grenades are not really needed at all. Pretty much anything can just stand there and easily shoot a squad out of a building at 2-1.
Guess Ill just have to get used to new buildings. Its obviously a positive move, but quite hard to get used to. |
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