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Jump back to quoted post9 Jun 2014, 00:34 AMJHeartless

for the first second or so. Either way the fact remains. They both got squad whiped without a single death.

He asked. I delivered. You can spin it all you want and say what if but that fact remains. Pgren whiped 2x PPSH scripts in a matter of seconds without taking a single loss.

Wouldnt have been a big deal to me if they would have been able to kill one model when the focus fired it. But they just did health damage.

Jump back to quoted post8 Jun 2014, 22:21 PMwehrwolfzug

Not sure what loads of bullshit you are quoting you didn't actually add anything truthful or discuss what I quoted?

You are talking about vcoh. Not once was this conversation about vet 2 Grens in vcoh? But seeing you are now I will state that vet 2 Grens got elite armor. This was to allow them to compete with allied elite infantry which spawned with elite armor. The 30 cal was garbage for anti infantry in coh 1. It was for killing scouts and light armor. It had almost zero suppression. Again you have a units designed role incorrect.

Now you want to compare pg to soviet shock infantry. Shocks are doctrine dependent and come in at two cp with no at options. Might I add that shocks need to be dry humping the ost players leg before they actually do damage. Pg are not shock troops, they are more special forces type infantry.

Not sure why you are swearing and spazzing out. Post like a grown up.

Jump back to quoted post8 Jun 2014, 21:23 PMwehrwolfzug

Honestly I think the real issues with pg oddly enough are a combination of rifle nades + g43 + assault grenadiers.

1. Rifle nade.

In vcoh grenadiers did not have a rifle nade. So this meant to assault you needed mortor smoke + pg or flame pios. It was a standard tactic. In coh2 the rifle nade is a cheap and safe way to kill at guns and weapon support teams. So a lot of players expect the pg to be a way more powerfull option because of tier and cost. No need for tactics now, you just click a button with grenadiers.

2. G43

Ost players now have another medium/ cq unit for a cheaper price and no teching. Doctrine specific but available in many of the p2w commanders. Again another issue of players thinking pg should perform better than grenadiers because teching and cost.

3. Assault grenadiers

Yet again another option for ost players in cq combat. Cheap and tier zero no need for pg when combined with grenadiers.

The issue of pg effectiveness is more complicated than just buffing them. It s easy to just cry and stamp your feet in the forums but you have to look at a much broader picture here.

Jump back to quoted post8 Jun 2014, 00:30 AMpantherswag

Having teching required for call-in is not a good idea IMO. The reason that call-ins cost extra fuel is because they do not require teching. If I have to tech to t4 to get a Tiger, why not just get a Panther instead for cheaper? It doesn't make sense.

Or even worse, why get a KV1 if I have a T3 building up anyway? T34s perform better in almost every way, for cheaper. The whole reason the KV1 has any value is because you can get it without investing in tech.