Right direction and good changes, but it needs some more. My suggestions:
Sight range decrease and build time increase helps Wehrmacht a lot. Seems pretty well and vitalizes LV gameplay for axis factions. But I would go further: AEC as a LV should be more of a support vehicle than a spearhead. Its trackshot ablity is awesome and syngerzises very well with AT guns. But in late game, it looses some of its potency. I tie on Sanders proposal and would reduce its damage to 100, but give it +60 damage with Vet 3. In lategame this would give it a great flanking capability. And on top of that, cause Brits don't have that much reconnaissance, I would add the same observation abiliy like Valentine and T70 have. In conclusion, AEC would act more like a support unit, same as T70, Stuart or 222, but in lategame, it gets the chance to compete with Axis mediums and help to secure flanks.
Good change, ensures more flexibility and indirect fire support for Brits. But with its low starting cost and the ability to use 120mm mortar rounds with extra range, I would highly recommend to increase the upgrade price. Morat pit already is a strong fortification which needs high effort to destroy. On top of that, 350 MP in total is still way cheaper than every other faction double mortar (480 MP). So 250 for 1 Mortar early on is good, but upgrade should cost either 150/200 Mp or/and some ammo. Otherwise I fear we will see lots of Mortar Pits gettig built in midgame and then easily upgraded in lategame.
This one hasn't been touched yet, but it really needs some adjustments. This thing acts like a light tank, has high armor and can repair itself. All of that for 0 fuel. I know this is intended to give Brits more diversity in early game and not to hinder T2 tech. But in comparrison with other LV, e.g. Soviet M3, this is too strong. UC can push Axis early on cause there is no AT on field. Therefore I would suggest reducing its armor from 5.8 to 3.8, same as Clown Car. But if upgraded, it gets back its 5.8 armor. This would still be stronger than Kubelwagen....
Infantry Section starting unit:
We all know Brits are very annoying right now due to Tommy spam/blob. But we also know, Brits don't have any alternatives in early/midgame to build. So what can we do? Many suggest to nerf Tommies. But this would cripple Brits in mid/lategame. So let me explain my idea and bear in mind new changes from this patch:
Replace starting Tommies with Engineers.
1. For that reason, Brits will have one Tommy section less on field and cannot blob that hard anymore.
2. On the one hand, they get a close combat unit early on which can compete with Wehr Pioneers, push Grenadiers and flank MGs. And on the other hand Sturmpioneers are no longer able to push Tommies CQ while having to face Engineers in front of them.
3. Bren carrier with lower armor can be easily repaired and ammo can be saved for upgrade.
4. When T2 is teched, Brits can build their new 250MP Mortar very quickly to get some needed indirect fire support.
5. With the one Engineer starting unit Brits finally get a close combat unit with snare (after T2 is built) directly on field. OKW 221 and Ostheer 222 can come very fast and surprise you while having no AT. But with the 1 Engineer starting unit, you can fend it off until AT gun or AEC arives. (remember, AEC will be delayed few seconds and come later this patch).
I think this would balance British faction by a lot. Less Tommies on field will help Volks and Grens to fight them, but the first Engineer for free will also help Brits in many many ways!
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Thread: [Winter Balance Update] UKF Feedback27 Nov 2020, 11:11 AM
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] Bug Reporting27 Nov 2020, 10:10 AM
- Churchil can't be upgraded with tank commander as patch notes say.
- AEC still has sight range of 50.
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] OST Feedback27 Nov 2020, 10:08 AM
All in all solid changes! Good work.
Whats the point of the Incendiary Shot? A very long aim time with high cost of 40 ammo for 1 kill and a ~3 second stun? I don't get it. Compared to Soviet flair and Bitish vehicle crit, this still sounds pretty worse.
Panzergrenadiers with Schrecks:
To put the guys with rockets in front of the squad feels very nice. But with 35 range they're still underpowered vs LVs. You always need a Pak gun anyway as Wehr or you will loose to LV rushs. And with low vehicle targetsize, Panzerschrecks tend to miss nearly always, especially at maxrange. Therefore Sander made the suggestion to reduce damage to 100 but increase accuracy. This would be a bit better, but bear in mind: PGs are very MP expensive, Schrecks cost a lot of ammo and the double schrecks cripple their AI. Because of this, I would reduce damge to 100 in order to decrease their threat vs vehicles and encounter schreck blobs. But on the other hand, increase accuracy AND the range to 40. PGs with schrecks would be still shredded by allied infantry due to their low AI.
This one hasn't been changed yet, but I would highly recommend to look at it. Its armor is way too thin vs small arms fire. Every allied infantry can damage it and you always need some pioneers behind it to quick repair. There is not even a need for AT guns, blobs can just shoot at it with BAR or Brens ect. Even the USF M20, which costs only 20 fuel, can be upgraded with armor skirts to withstand MG and rifle fire. This wouldn't be a big change but it would help Wehr to better stay at frontline and support the flanks vs blobs. In addition, rushing T2 is no longer possible cause of the fuel increase for the tech. Futhermore a slight build time increase would lower the power spike. Or, like the M20, make an upgrade for ammo in order to increase its armor. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to make an Ostheer Luchs. Its combat capabilities are fine. But at least same armor as Puma would be the least.
Thread: Will they address Panzergrens in the new patch?26 Nov 2020, 17:48 PM
Just a reminder: PGs have no snare and are totally crap with shrek upgrade. Allies have best LV with high AI performance. So either fight it with vehicles, or infantry as Shreks are purchased.
Sorry guys, but if you have trouble vs. high cost elite infantry with no AT at 4-5 mins, then try Axis and deal with 5 min USF Flak HT, Soviet Quad and Brit AEC....
Thread: First Quarter 2021 Balance Patch26 Nov 2020, 15:38 PM
26 Nov 2020, 14:36 PMgbem
Sorry for missundestanding but my 3 points are according to the balance suggestions made by Miragefla and Sander93. I only wanted to add my points on top of that. So there are enough Axis nerfs all in all.
And sorry, but I don' get your point.... Soviet Mortars are 6 men crews and could get their flair with Vet 1. Where's your problem?! Their raw stats are exactly the same, turbo Axis mortar has been nerfed years ago.
And Zis gun needs barrage? have you ever played 2vs2 the last months? Almost every Conscript spammer builds 1 Zis gun to counter every German HMG. No need for mortars. I don't get the point why an anti TANK gun needs to act as an indirect firing option while there is a mortar team buildable. This is just beeing abused a lot.
Soviets are not one of the weakest factions. I'm sorry to disappoint you. They are the most played allied faction and have pretty good winrates.
Thread: First Quarter 2021 Balance Patch26 Nov 2020, 13:16 PM
26 Nov 2020, 12:01 PMHannibal
I'll just quickly pick out a thing or two:
Thats not my point. It's not about the abilities per se. It's about having abilities at Vet 0. Blietzkrieg and stun shots you mentioned are all unlocked at Vet 1.
This is intended for all handheld AT to allow kiting with good micro. Long ago, handheld AT had longer range which shut down LV play and enabled blobs to delete vehicles.
You forgot the damage reduction. I said, reducing the dmg from 120 to 100 would be nice in combination with 40 range. Therefore Schrecks won't delete vehicles as you say. And on top of that, as I also mentioned, Wehr has a special role in this purpose. Wehr has no AT LV like all the others. And PGs with Schrecks are much more expansive than Penals with PTRS or Echelons with Zooks. IMO this would justify the extra 5 range.
I am also divided by that. I think it's rather the Churchill, Comet and KV1 hat need a slight armor nerf. This design was on purpose: Allied do not have heavy armor on stock, but IF they chose to field them via a doctrine then Axis have to play smart and deviate from their heavy armor play. In general it still works and I think it is a very interesting design, just as usual Brits screwed it up with having stock heavy units.
But Axis Heavies are also not stock units? Excpet the Kingtiger, all of them are call in and doctrinal. This is no reason IMO. And due to the last balance patches, there are so many doctrines right now which give access to heavies, there is likely minimum one in every 2vs2 game. And I don't understand, why allies should be easily able to compete with German heavies but axis have to play "smart".
According to the OKW commander ability, I also don't agree with you. With Elite Panzer Doctrine every OKW vehicle is able to use HEAT rounds. But my proposal targets only StuG3 with Vet 1.
Reducing armor of heavies would be pretty nice if tank destroyer penetration would be also reduced. This would vitalize medium tank gameplay. I am in favor of this solution but pestimistic it will come that way.
According to the Panther, I didn't suggest anything. IMO its fine and fits very well in his role. Nothing to change here.
Thread: First Quarter 2021 Balance Patch26 Nov 2020, 11:14 AM
3 things that have to be changed additional to those proposals Miragefla and Sander 93 already made:
Thread: Sander's personal balance changes30 Oct 2020, 10:10 AM
Is there any time period which we can expect this patch to get released? For example, "Winter Balance Update 2020"? :-)
Thread: Updated Numeric Veterancy Mod(English)7 Oct 2020, 17:54 PM
Downloadlink still dead :-/
Thread: Mortar Vet 3 doesnt apply3 Oct 2020, 10:42 AM
Okay, thank you for clarification :-)
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