Profile of Sander93

What about the armies? Luchs has STG volks, Spios and Obers/Falls/JLI. T70 has to carry 7man conscripts.

I'm only mentioning that I think the Luchs damage profile is a better design than the T-70's. It's just a remark on design, it didn't have anything to do with the current balance. I'd wish Relic would've given the T-70 a damage profile more like the Luchs years ago and balanced the rest of the Soviets around that, so now we wouldn't be left with the near impossible task of balancing a crutch unit. Too late now.

End of, you wont change my mind because I'm right, I wont change your mind because you're wrong.

That's remarkably self confident for someone who is rank 200s (in UKF's skeleton leaderboards) with a win rate barely over 50%. One might even say borderline delusional. But who am I to judge.

I "Fail to understand" because obers are infantry you just said their role is anti infantry, well what the hell is an MG's role if it isn't to suppress infantry and be the best at it when said infantry is walking into it head on from max range.

The role of an HMG is to help your army win engagements, and stop most infantry assaults. They are literally called support weapons. They are not meant to solo every single engagement.

Commandos are also "brute strength anti-infantry", they can't do what happened in the video they get suppressed and pinned as they should, Obers to far too much damage with 1 burst of their LMG causing HMG death loops and incredible damage.

Commandos are not brute strength infantry at all, they are close range ambush units. They can be equipped with double elite Brens to resemble something of a brute strength AI unit, but their DPS is still nowhere near that of other elite long range infantry such as LMG Obers or M1919 Paratroopers. Commandos can use their camouflage to sneak up on, or throw smoke grenades with vet 1, to respectively avoid or charge right through an HMG's field of fire, but I guess we'll just ignore that.

Again we are not talking about being positioned correctly, we are talking about how Obers or any unit, shouldn't solo an HMG from the front, if anything was positioned correctly it would counter an MG even an AT gun FFS.

The game is about positioning in its very core. It's what the cover system was designed for. Why you're so eager to completely ignore this is beyond me. If you put your HMG in cover, Obers lose 50% or 75% of their DPS, and they will have a much harder time (if not impossible) to snipe the gunner model before they get pinned.

By the way, I wouldn't use the fact that you have helped relic with the current balance patch to boast, in a thread about how a faction has been broken due to the recent content patch

The faction went from blatantly overpowered at release to slightly underperforming now. Which was exactly what we'd expect after (necessarily) nerfing some overperforming clutch units (and buffing other things, such as adding snares) over the last year or so. Balancing isn't done in a single day, especially not on a complex faction ecosystem level, it's done in baby steps. There's no way to fully predict the outcome of certain big changes, and sometimes it's necessary to just see where things land (for example the recent Infantry Section changes) before making other adjustments in compensation (next patch).

I will add that I think the majority of the community will agree that the current balance is in the best state it's ever been since the release of WFA, backed up by high and steady player numbers (for how old the game is), very positive recent Steam reviews, a relatively low amount of balance discussions and a good amount of praise for most changes in the latest patches. You are of course absolutely free to disagree.


Here's a tip for you: ask or look for advice, watch replays and casts to try to form a neutral view on the game and get yourself an inquisitive mindset, instead of immediately blaming balance and fight whoever proves you wrong, and you'll have a much better game experience with better results.

Firefly designed to kill hedges I see.

The Firefly is designed to help your army kill tanks, not solo them. The fact that it has 8 seconds reload and can be killed even by a Panzer IV at close range, let alone a Tiger, should tell you enough about the design. It's meant to pick away at tanks from long range, while these enemy tanks are deterred from closing in by supporting units (threats of snares, mines, ATGs). It's not meant to pick a 1v1 fight with any enemy tank under any circumstances and win.

So, as its all about costs, 2 volks should be able to frontally assault a vickers and win right? With all squads being out in the open of course because I have run that test countless times and guess what happens. Vickers wins 100% of the time.

Units have roles. The Tiger is a brute strength tank. That's its main role. Obersoldaten are brute strength elite anti-infantry. That's their only role. The Tiger wins against all cheaper tanks, even if they are dedicated tank destroyers. Obersoldaten win against all cheaper infantry, even dedicated anti-infantry units. These expensive and elite units are meant to be countered by either combined arms (the core of the game), overwhelming force, or other counters (snipers, vehicles, mines or rocket artillery in the case of Obersoldaten), and not by a single, cheaper unit. Even though most can trade effectively when used right, as I've shown you in the above example.

This is not comparable to mainline infantry, even though yes, two Volksgrenadiers could win against an HMG if positioned correctly. Disproportionally expensive units that have one dedicated role win against lower tier units, even if these units normally counter a certain (also lower tier) unit type. I'm not sure why you fail to (or don't want to) understand these core game design concepts.

Look me up, feel free, it of course will or wont validate everything I say! Its the same as my name here.

No it doesn't, it just puts what you've said into perspective.
To put what I've said into perspective: I'm top 10 with most factions (UKF rank 5 with 82% wr) and I help Relic design the current balance and content patches.

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Additionally, if needed, remove the "recon mode" vet bonus; this gives the unit tons of late game utility that other comparable LVs don't provide (LOS, Capping)

Odd statement, to be frank. Scaling because of utility is exactly how all light vehicles should have been designed, so they are still useful in the late game when they can't fight effectively anymore. The utility scaling of the T70 is great, and other light vehicles should've been designed like it (Puma and AEC are to some extend, with handy disable abilities to help fight enemy tanks). Not the other way around. Players should be rewarded for keeping their light vehicles alive, instead of being encouraged to send them off to die because they just take up popcap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WF51xws_BKc&feature=youtu.be

Were MG's designed to be countered by obers? Because, as I have shown, they can be, from the front, very easily.

The first video literally shows the HMG winning against the Obers lol. Perhaps try to position your HMG behind cover if you don't want it getting killed frontally. Don't blame bad play on game balance. I'm done replying here since you clearly don't want to be helped and you seem to be here just to whine.