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So right now, since I did not checked it ingame again. I am not really sure, what you want from me. sorry

I am looking at the sight blocking objects with the yellow arrows (thread #11). They cause weird issues and should be removed. CONS: Removing them will make the houses stronger.

WORST CASE ISSUE
A tank(A) tries to attack an AT gun (B). It wants to KITE back and forth along this road. Tank is getting sight from another unit somewhere.


Tank cannot see the AT gun, so it DOES NOT attack. Instead it drives into the enemy position and gets killed. Player smashes keyboard, calls Relic some not nice names, and deletes game.


This is all because YOU CAN NOT SEE THE FUEL CONTAINER from the normal camera position.

Latest version of possible Angoville rework.

(2p) RosboneVille (v4)

Hamburg also has a couple areas that have weird sight issues. These may cause confusion in many players. You may hear things like "WTF isnt my MG shooting!?!"

1) By the middle VP there is a single cargo container(yellow) that blocks sight from the dominant building. If a squad is inside the FOW triangle (blue) they CAN NOT be seen by the building because they fail the FOW test (COH1). If they fire at teh building or another unit gives sight for the building, the enemy passes the FOW test. The building may start shooting at the enemy if it passes the TRUESIGHT test (COH2 cubes). The two containers to the right of the building work better than the single container because they are so far away from the building that the TRUESIGHT test is more predictable.



1) The single cargo container is mirrored on the north dominant building by a fuel tank (yellow). This fuel tank also causes weird vehicle attacks because you can not see the fuel container in game. It is behind the tall building. When you tell your tank to shoot something around that corner it will not have sight and will drive into the enemy instead. Again you will hear "WTF is my tank doing!"
2) The Cargo containers are very wide compared to the Fuel container in the shed. We could add another large fuel barrel object to balance (green). The little rusty cans do not block sight.


OPTIONS
A) Do nothing and hope players do not get discouraged by the weird sight behavior.
B) Remove the Cargo and Fuel tank to mirror balance. Each building will be a little stronger for the enemy, since they have better coverage into your base.
C) Make each building a single story building so the sight blockers work more reliably. The TRUESIGHT test will never pass and the buildings will not shoot. This will make the buildings a lot easier to grenade from the base side, making them weaker for the enemy pushing into your base.

Possible changes to the brick piles that cause sight block issues and the brown debri hills the game adds to the broken brick walls:

OPTION 1:
Make a little hill manually with brick texture and brick debris objects. Could look better with a little extra work.
PROS: Looks ok. CONS: The hill is permanent and may look bad when the wall is gone.


OPTION 2:
Add wire and brick debri objects.


OPTION 3
Do not have ANY broken walls.


OPTION 4:
Large brick debris object.
PROS: Looks good. Is a medium crush object.


OPTION 5:
Use a stone debris object to recreate the broken brick section.


OPTION 6:
Use a brick debris VISUAL entity object to recreate the broken brick section.

Mono tried but he wasn't able to do it
And it does not happend often tho, lucky.

Are these the hedgerows in question?


These hedges are on a small hill. In the example below, the MG will not shoot at the INF on the other side of the hedges unless something gives them sight first. The MG initially uses the FOW grid to see objects. Once the FOW test is passed (something somewhere sees the units), the game will switch to TRUESIGHT and the MG will try to look thru the sight block cubes that surround all objects. The truesight calc may also incorporate a cube from the MG, to see if the MG cube can see the INF cube. If so, the hedge cube does not have to be too far off the ground before the MG can see right under it and start shooting.



So the hill height needs to be reduced or the hedges need to be manually lowered. I just found this in a map I am making and said "where did I just read this...."

This is probably not the issue since Mono posted about it ages ago. Just throwing it out there in case it helps get someone thinking.