Im not saying it needs the second model im saying being a wprse version of the ost sniper is an unbalanced decision. Im not saying it needs to be the same as the ost sniper im saying BEING WORSE AND COSTING THE SAME IS BAD BALANCE.
Would it be balanced if they copied the brit sniper but removed the light AT, the critical shot, the -33% rec acc at vet 2 and the arty flares and called it a day? Fuck no. Would it be balanced if the t34 cost the same as the p4? No. You cant have a direct clone of a unit, but made shittier, costing the same and call it balance.
You are correct, and wrong. Look at the big picture.
- Sniper 2 man : With bolt action rifle. Really hard to vet.
- Changed 1 Sniper 1 man : With Semi auto Rifle. Easier to vet.
- It is easier to stealth. Than 2 man.
- It keeps stealth when moving from cover to cover 2 sec instead of 3 sec (Like wehr)
- It's health went from 45-60 to 82. (Like wehr)
- Wehr rate of fire changed from ? to 1.5 (british sniper also changed to 1.5)
- brit sniper had heavy AT sniper rifle. Buffed to semi auto from bolt action (!!!)
- Penal anti vehicle satchel nerfed (5 vs 10 range)
- Penal anti tank rifle nerfed (on bounce?)
- Guards nerfed
- 222 Finally got 1.5x on it's MG
- 222 Armor buffed (doubled!)
- Snipers now shoot 100% in garrison now (Germans loooove garrison)
(So do brits)
- Mortars weaker vs out of garrison (helps sniper) and buffed vs garrison (wehr nerf)
- Turbomortars nerfed (wehr nerf)
- Kubel lost it's anti sniper. Pz2, Puma gained.
- UC lost it's anti sniper. Now AEC3.
Old Sov Sniper reinforce cost was ~ 135 for it's useless model. Leaving only a bolt rifle
sniper with low ROF and low health. If you ask me, this is ultimately : German getting what
they asked for, but having to pay something in return, making it, ultimately, a level exchange.
Germans said 222 needed buff. They got it. Penal/Guard AT nerf, they got it. SOV Sniper 2 man
needed to be 1 man, they got it.
But they had to pay dearly in return.
Take a deep breath, and see how it works out.
Ultimately, I think 2x SOV 1x man sniper combo will decimate way more now that they have
semi auto rifles rather than slow aim bolt action rifles with low accuracy. (esp with the
100% vs garrisoned).
What I want now, is for the MG bunker (and american Fighting position) MG to be snipeable.
Actually, even the Flexible MG/Tank commanders to be snipeable. They could be specifically
killed in COH1, so...
Seeing top hatch guys atop of tanks be indestructible drives me nuts
Yes, SOV sniper is now a - very - slightly worse than Wehr sniper clone.
This actually works to our advantage, when all is taken into account.
Take a deep breath, and see how it works out.
German players kept asking for allied nerfs. They got them. Almost all of them.
But it's like chess. Asking for black knights to be nerfed. They get nerfed, but
then so do white knights get nerfed. So ultimately, they shoot themselves in the foot.
ElSlayer : Old Sov Sniper 64x2 = 128. Actually, it wasn't. More like 60+40. Still a 100.
But the thing was, 40 is easier to lose than 82. Esp when you consider AOE. OST sniper
could not be killed by a single mortar. And Molotov takes awhile to kill. Rifle Grenade
would kill both snipers instantly.
I agree. I, too, prefer 1x 82HP model with improved stealth + SVT40 semi auto +50% rate of fire.
Dullahan : I disagree that this kills soviet sniper play. On the contrary, actually.
4x men squads will feel semi auto high accuracy fire much worse than to an innacurate
bolt action rifle. Plus now, sov sniper can't wipe from rifle grenade/turbomortars.
: PS: British sniper rate of fire also went +50%
And I agree, generalized homogeniasation kills flavor, and dumbifies the game.
But it does improve balance, once everyone has same thing. Notice Germans are also
asking for improved Grenadier squad size. Let's see what Germans have to pay in return
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blvckdream : I fully understand the impact that the old
Bolt action 1x gun vs 4 men squads
Semi Action 1x gun vs 6 men squads
to
Semi Action 1x gun vs 4 men squads is going to have.
Germans complained about sov sniper 'durability'...
You can't have it both ways. Prepare for screaming once they catch on.
ZombiFrancis : On giving sov sniper a PTRSD
- Irrelevant. British Bolt Action PTRSD also buffed to Semi auto PTRSD. Same ROF as Wehr now.
thedarkarmadillo : On SOV sniper being a weaker wehr sniper.
- You have to look at the bigger picture. I for one see it as a massive sniper buff.
I always found sov sniper ROF to be horrible. It's like a +50% bonus to sniper output.
And, seriously, if you were tanking with your sniper, something is wrong with you.
It now survives better, sneaks better, and dishes out a lot more damage.
Having 1 model that cost 135 manpower (not 90 like some people said) that died
to a sneeze, and entire squad being wiped to first AOE was much much worse.
Plus he can relocate much easier now (2 sec camo out of cover) Giggity (Yes ost is 3 sec)
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