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Thread: "Close the pocket" OP? 28 Jun 2020, 22:12 PM The very most I could see in changes to CTP is more of a ramping effect to give the player more time to be forgiven for getting completely cut off. Maybe apply a temporary disabling of points (like the scorched earth ability for soviet) just to split the difference In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Should doctrinal units/upgrades be superior?28 Jun 2020, 16:40 PM Jump back to quoted post28 Jun 2020, 14:06 PMElpern Here is where we disagree. I think that the t34/85 is a perfect example where this is done right, its a heavier specialized at version of the 76, not a straight upgrade. The shocks however are an offender, because there is no stock assault unit in soviet roster that works in a similiar fashion, and they are not flavour because of their strength .... There is no better example of a straight upgrade in the entire game. Even the ost up armored p4 could be considered an alternative because it's available even without t3 of you get t4. The 85mm is better in every way with a cost to accompany it. If it's not an upgrade nothing on the entire game is (and frankly, nothing else really IS) In: COH2 Balance
Thread: "Close the pocket" OP? 28 Jun 2020, 16:38 PM Jump back to quoted post28 Jun 2020, 16:03 PMSuperHansFan Anyone that says the ability is fine obviously has never played 4vs4 redball before And just because top players can counter cheese (sim city) that doesn't mean it doesn't ruin plenty of average level games. Same logic applies here, you can have a 30min even and fun game just ruined in the space of a few seconds because of the delete enemy armies button. There are other 4v maps besides redball? Seems that's all I ever get. Anyways, at the loading screen there's some handy info, it tells you what commanders the enemy is bringing with them, if one of them is CTP a non doc investment of 250mp will buy you enough time to respond to the enemy trying to exploit your lack of a defensive line pretty easily But if that's too much work I suppose map makers could pull up the map, edit in a 3rd point in between the other 2 that border the base sector deep behind the front line so that pulling off one of the hardest off maps in the game is completely impossible. That sounds much easier actually. I'm not a big fan of building caches. Or laying mines. Or really doing anything. I'm waiting for the patch where the enemy just drops completely every match so I don't actually have to play at all but still have the gratification of winning. One day.... One day... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Should doctrinal units/upgrades be superior?27 Jun 2020, 23:36 PM Jump back to quoted post27 Jun 2020, 23:32 PMMr. Someguy Doctrines provide additional options, they do not necessarily need to be superior. So the G43 work differently from the LMG 42, but are not inherently superior in every way. Furthermore I firmly believe that every doctrinal unit should have a non-doctrinal soft-counter at bare minimum; but a hard-counter is preferred. Couldn't agree more. No doctrine should ever be required to fight a doctrinal unit or upgrade. In an ideal balance, imo, all stock factions should be balanced independently of doctrines and then doctrines are balanced separately afterwards and adhered to the established balance. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: State of the ISU-15227 Jun 2020, 23:31 PM A reduction of rear armour would help open up proper countering but an ele shouldn't be missing.... Anything frankly given it's price point so maybe an accuracy improvement for the ele should be in order independently of the isu In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Should doctrinal units/upgrades be superior?27 Jun 2020, 23:28 PM Jump back to quoted post27 Jun 2020, 22:51 PMElpern It would make sense for doctrinal units to be inferior to stock units from ordinary tech. They should be there as heavily specialized versions and flavour, nothing you pick because unit x is objectively stronger than unit y from stock, which is sadly usually the case . Completely depends. Should the t34/85 which costs more than the 76mm despite the exact se tech costs be inferior? Why? As long as access costs are comparable to the stock unit there's no reason the stock unit. Should shocks fight as well as cons because shocks are doctrinal and cons are stock? Of course not. My only semi agreement that comes from this would be the removal of "call ins" being replaced with built units from either appropriate techs or at the very lease t0 builds REQUIRING comparable tech. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: US Pak Howitzer Is Out Of Control 27 Jun 2020, 20:17 PM Jump back to quoted post27 Jun 2020, 18:57 PMOnimusha How can i deal with an advanced OKW hq with mgs and leigs, if you nerf pak howi? Do I lose the match while I'm waiting for the calliope or priest? USF has no rocket arty. if it lost its auto fire and instead got a better barrage time it would still be more than feasible In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Should doctrinal units/upgrades be superior?27 Jun 2020, 14:06 PM Should doctrinal things be better? Not necessarily. They should be different, that's better and cheaper. Look at the soviet for example--while you do have the t34/85 which is absolutely a better t34/76, you also have the m42 AT gun which is a "worse" zis. What's important is that they are different. When considering the balance of these units there is a hidden opportunity cost in that it bars you from other options but frankly it's mostly irrelevant. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Prevent ambulances from dying to stray shot27 Jun 2020, 13:03 PM Are we really turning an ambulance too squishy thread into a faction dick measuring contest? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Idea for sturmpiooner27 Jun 2020, 01:24 AM Jump back to quoted post26 Jun 2020, 22:13 PMelchino7 0.85 and 0.8 when in cover. 0.9 was pre patch. Blyat. Thanks for the correction. Y'know back when I started memorizing these stats they didn't change like the tides... In: COH2 Balance