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Thread: KV1 and Churchill can take too much damage4 Jun 2019, 12:36 PM Jump back to quoted post4 Jun 2019, 11:28 AMLago That's what Katitof was saying. You can't expect people to treat your opinions as facts. Pls leave katitof out of it. If it is you think that I expect other people to treat my opinion as a fact you are simply wrong. My post are filed with imo which stand for in my opinion. It as actually other that present their own opinion as facts while attacking and insulting people who disagree with them in process. Jump back to quoted post4 Jun 2019, 11:28 AMLago Overpowered is a completely subjective term. Without objective criteria to define something as overpowered, it is subjective. Saying that all those things on your list were overpowered is also subjective. Widely agreed, but subjective nonetheless. That is your opinion and based on your approach that there are non "objective criteria". Actually Relic set up a benchmark exactly to be able to compare unit with base line and decided what is UP or OP. In the case of Churchill the characteristic I have already mentioned does not mean much one their own but once one starts comparing them with the values of other vehicles one will see that these value are not normal and their combination make the unit over perform for cost. As you can see there are thing that can be used as "objective criteria". In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Fix OKW Sturm Offizier 4 Jun 2019, 11:51 AM Jump back to quoted post4 Jun 2019, 09:46 AMStark It's good to hear that there are still plans to release patches and support the CoH2. Personally i find the game quite balance right now. Of course there are few basic units or tech structure that could be twicked (OKW T4 etc.), but generally i would prefer next patches to focus again on revamping existing commanders. List of bad commanders is quite long sadly. Perfect example is meansioned sturmOffizier and bugged Breakthough artillery barrage. As vet5 is quite hard to get and officer should be focus on supporting nearbly troops i would like to suggest a group healing like Commissar or UKF Tommies have rather than self-healing. It would make more sense imo. Imo it would much more effective to nerf in small way the TOP choice commanders. That can increase the meta commander allot and that would help identify more stock balance problems. The officer should have veterancy bonuses and the bonuses should help him in his role. So imo choose to role for the officer desinged him around that role, give him the tools for that role and design the vet bonuses to improve him in that role. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: KV1 and Churchill can take too much damage4 Jun 2019, 08:33 AM Jump back to quoted post4 Jun 2019, 01:18 AMmurky depths Proving a negative, etc. I actually _do_ think Churchill is a bit too stronk at the moment, but good logic and all that. Well I was not really trying to make a comment on the state of Churchill. I was simply demonstrating how weak and no constructive some agreement where. The "no actual evidence" and "'overpowered' is a completely subjective term" arguments have little place in this thread since they simply question the whole patch balance processes and not the state of the Churchill. There no actual evidence about many things in the game yet the game is patched, and there are unit that are UP or OP objectively and they are being fixed. Bottom line is that Churchill current performance can be better designed making the unit more interesting to use and less frustrating to counter. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: KV1 and Churchill can take too much damage3 Jun 2019, 23:39 PM Churchill has some unusual values: Accel: 3.5 simply too high Rotate: 32 simply too high Rear Armor: 180 one of the highest in the game Health: 1400 one of the highest in the game One of the few tank with stock defensive smoke In addition: It has too much shock value. Lacks a clear role and counter. My suggestion would be to fix acceleration, rotation and rear. To reduce shock value by adjusting base and veterancy bonuses so that its get bonuses suitable for the role including HP and Armor. To give a role to the unit and the right tools for that role. For instance the unit can now both deal with mediums and ATG easily. A more interesting design imo would be that of infatry support tank. That would include reducing penetration so that the unit is weaker vs enemy tanks, smoke rounds so it silence hmg, rear smoke similar to the one that was available to commando providing cover status but not cover bonuses so that UKF infatry can fire as if in cover, maybe abilities similar to "Inspire: Infantry" This design aims to have Churchill soaking damage while infatry dishing out the damage. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: KV1 and Churchill can take too much damage3 Jun 2019, 23:21 PM Jump back to quoted post3 Jun 2019, 23:08 PMLago ... Because, surprise surprise, 'overpowered' is a completely subjective term. No "'overpowered' is a completely subjective term". JLI where OP Tiger ACE was op Assault Grenadier where OP Win industry was OP Cancer commander was OP Penal with flamer where OP USF mortar was OP .... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: KV1 and Churchill can take too much damage3 Jun 2019, 22:57 PM Jump back to quoted post3 Jun 2019, 22:27 PMKatitof Outside of repeating like a broken record, we do not have any actual evidence that churchill or kv-1 are op in any way. We only have looping, endlessly repeating statements that late game damage sponge tanks with bad guns can take a lot of damage compared to units with more armor and much better firepower. Outside of repeating like a broken record, we do not have any actual evidence that churchill or kv-1 are not op in any way. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: KV1 and Churchill can take too much damage3 Jun 2019, 17:15 PM Jump back to quoted post3 Jun 2019, 17:06 PMSkysTheLimit After you. Make a worthwhile point besides just arguing with people. Do you think the churchill should be nerfed and how? Otherwise you're the only one wasting peoples time BTW i was rading plenty carefully. "A number of buffs" is a BS claim. It received 3, and none of them were significant. and saying "defensive smoke" is not the same as actually saying the change correctly. Which is a speed while the smoke is being launched. Ok you seem to have engaged in personal vendetta. Have a nice day. BB now In: COH2 Balance
Thread: KV1 and Churchill can take too much damage3 Jun 2019, 17:12 PM Jump back to quoted post3 Jun 2019, 17:03 PMLago As of the next patch, the SU-76's chance to frontally penetrate a Brummbar or a Panther at 50 range is 62%. That drops to 56% for the Panther and 47% for the Brummbar when they get their skirts. EDIT: Unless it interpolates. In that case, a little higher. Penetration is linear. I am not sure why you are stretching here with the performance of the SU-76 in the next and what you really want to argue. Churchill is more durable than both the Panther and Brumbar and Su-76 is not recommended counter to them. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: KV1 and Churchill can take too much damage3 Jun 2019, 17:04 PM Jump back to quoted post3 Jun 2019, 16:57 PMSkysTheLimit YES, Now go look at what those changes were. HINT: I already mentioned them. All they changed on the 19th was the speed while launching smoke, popcost, and its crews moving acc (hardly a huge buff) Jesus dude All the changes you mentioned came before comet nerf Jesus dude you are the one continuing this while being offensive. Now pls read more carefully: Jump back to quoted post3 Jun 2019, 16:44 PMVipper That claim is incorrect, Churchill has high acceleration and rotation and is not easy to flank. That claim is also incorrect Churchill has received a number of buff like lowering fuel cost and defensive smoke. Defensive smoke come after the Comet nerf. Now pls stop wasting all our time and simply move on. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: KV1 and Churchill can take too much damage3 Jun 2019, 17:01 PM Jump back to quoted post3 Jun 2019, 16:55 PMLago As of the next patch, the SU-76's chance to frontally penetrate a Brummbar or a Panther at max range is 62%. That drops to 56% for the Panther and 47% for the Brummbar when they get their skirts. Now do the math for range for 50 and keep in mind that SU-76 is cheaper than Stug. My point simply Churchill has a comparable chance to be penetrated by axis units with the one Panther and Brumbar have to be penetrate by allied unit frontally while way lower to be penetrate from the rear. Describing Churchill as low armored vehicle and Panther/Brumbar vehicles is simply misleading. In: COH2 Balance