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Thread: Move Conscripts 7th man from t4 to t3?21 Jun 2019, 13:47 PM Jump back to quoted post21 Jun 2019, 13:43 PMblvckdream If that was done then the meta would simply become call in infantry...There is a sheer endless list of infantry in COH2 you can't possibly nerf all of it just to suit your taste of "low lethality" infantry combat. Just imagine if Volks were nerfed, Shocks and Guards would just steamroll OKW. Same for Rangers, Paratroopers, etc Now you simply missing the time element. Mainline infatry give the pace of powerful weapon should be around. When Relic reduced the CP of Penal Guards to 1 they completely dominated the field. But imo Shocks Guards Ranger and other units should also be toned a bit. If Doctrinal units are available early they should come out weaker and buy their upgrade similar to mainline infantry. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Move Conscripts 7th man from t4 to t3?21 Jun 2019, 13:43 PM Jump back to quoted post21 Jun 2019, 13:20 PMLago I think I finally get what you mean here. ... Am I correct? I don't think riflemen need a nerf ( although one could change BAR to 45 munition and make it good at mid range solidifying riflemen as best mid range mainline infatry ) nor Grenadier/conscript. Imo Penal and ST 44 VG are simply badly design since they weapons that are good at all ranges reducing the need for better positioning. As for fire fight generally imo their duration have been lowered too much especially in the early stages of the game. That has number of side affects like less use of support weapons (accept for the power 0.50) and more snowball effects. In way you are correct imo the current lethality levels in the early stage of the game are simply too high. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Problems of flanking tanks21 Jun 2019, 12:48 PM I would mind testing creating a "flank tank" type vehicle with low penetration ROF long range but much better stats the closer it gets. It could also have lower snare threshold, better rear armor, fast rotating turret but the crush human part would have to be removed. Candidates could be T-34/76, M10, Puma. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Move Conscripts 7th man from t4 to t3?21 Jun 2019, 12:42 PM Jump back to quoted post21 Jun 2019, 12:22 PMMaret There are many ways to balance units, stats is only one way. Another way - economical part. Sometimes decreased price makes units more playable. Looks like many peoples see cons as utility unit and in game we have one unit that much closer this view - osttruppens. Cheap as dirt, could build defensive structures, have snares, very good in terms of loses and resources and also have weapon upgrade. Main problem with cons - very huge MP bleed for very tiny results + investments in their utility upgrades. We could decrease economical pressure from cons on player and this could makes them better, without any touches to their battle stats. IF you have cheap unit you could deal with huge loses. Human wave tactics have been tested and proven problematic vs ostheer. Osttuppen do not have ourah or molotovs and can only be used in cover. If one turns conscripts to osttruppen the ourah and molotov has to go. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Move Conscripts 7th man from t4 to t3?21 Jun 2019, 12:39 PM Jump back to quoted post21 Jun 2019, 12:03 PMblvckdream It just doesn't make sense. It's not practical to nerf all balanced infantry units instead of buffing the few under powered ones. It makes perfect sense. There is optimum power level. Balancing units in non optimum power level might have become easier (after of countless buff to some unit) but it is not "practical". In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Move Conscripts 7th man from t4 to t3?21 Jun 2019, 11:40 AM Jump back to quoted post21 Jun 2019, 11:27 AMCrecer13 more expensive only on 10 man power, and therefore they should be at any distance right at the start? Actually it would be probably be better if they had slightly different weapon profiles and conscripts having a slight disadvantage at long range and slight advantage from 15-20. Making relative positioning important makes the game better imo. On the other hand currently if you perform the same test at vet 3 I would guess that conscripts would win. Bottom line here is that its ST44 that makes the difference. Now if they VG received a nerf to better balanced vs conscripts (as they should imo) Penals would also have to be nerfed (as they should imo) or they would completely dominate VG at all ranges. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Move Conscripts 7th man from t4 to t3?21 Jun 2019, 11:23 AM Jump back to quoted post21 Jun 2019, 11:14 AMCrecer13 They are better then conscripts, with the same cover, 5 Folk without STG will beat 6 conscripts at any distance. They should since the are more expensive, even so conscripts perform better once vetted. Point here is that VG become allot more effective once up gunned. The main problem with VGs is the ST44 upgrade. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Problems of flanking tanks21 Jun 2019, 11:19 AM As far as I know there is only 1 speed for vehicles. The engine does not support forward and backward speeds. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Move Conscripts 7th man from t4 to t3?21 Jun 2019, 10:48 AM VG are not allot better than Conscripts. If one invest 60 munition for ST44 VG become allot better than Conscripts. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: USF Rifle Company Rework21 Jun 2019, 09:15 AM Jump back to quoted post21 Jun 2019, 08:30 AMblancat That is OP rifle grenade(tommy) in coh1 had very low accuracy coh2 rifle grendae also should have low accuracy Coh2 is cover-fight game Frequent firing of rifle grenade that ignore the cover results in a major balance problem The mod team that created them must have a very poor understanding of the game(include no CP limited tigers and buff ostwind) pathetic team The rifle grenade can be adjusted. Imo it should simply not be available to a cheap spammable unit like R.E. . Even it current state if it take both weapon slot it would be allot better balance in rifle men than RE since it would less spam able. In addition the double rifle-grenade from fighting pits would be removed. In: COH2 Balance