or again u could increase the set up time and increase suppression making it similar to other mgs ?
You wanna increase the cone too? .50 and dshk are only other mgs with same cone or smaller, and they already setup way faster than maxim. You increase the setup time any more, that cone should get buffed too
Price increase included |
THAT WHAT I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO SAY FOR 2 YEARS, OKW DOES NOT GET FREE UPGRADES, THE UPGRADES ARE IN THE TECH TREE COST
I HAVE HEARD ENOUGH OF PEOPLE SAYING " UHHE b-b-but OPKW gets freeeeeeee barsssssss and nadesssssss !!!!1111!!!
No one is saying that, can you stop acting like a child? Going on freakouts like this doesn't help your argument, the opposite actually
I just explained to you, the entire time we're talking about squads specifically. This isn't about a race to finish teching, its squad to squad cost
Not about "okw gets free upgrades". Its about spending mp and fuel on tech that unlocks nothing BUT upgrades, which Fussies don't have to do. This matters if you're gonna compare them to Rifleman cost... |
Not sure how this thread made it into 14 pages when:
The mod team has reverted countless changes over the years, some of which were agreed upon by many people to be good changes. Even the language in the part you quoted shows uncertainty
We have previews for a reason, no?
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srsly by saying ostwind inst op vs t34's is your justification of not being a fanboy? your more deluded then i thought.
Lol what is your problem. If you can't talk like an adult i have no time for you. Grow up |
check just above u can see okw pays similar thanks to the increase in tech cost , right now they pay 10 fuel more in total but the bar and zook can be put on anyone and u get smoke too
Okay but why are you comparing tech costs to get to tanks in a thread about cp0 infantry? Im talking about what Rifleman pay, not US as a whole |
Self bump...
Also. New route for discussion:
Adding a munitions cost to the maxim
I've played a few mods where team weapons have a munitions cost associated with them and assuming the maxim actually performs well, a munitions cost could help stem a maxim spam from reaching mass before it can be managed. It would force cons to be intigrated to the build and then they eat up pop cap which leaves less room for more maxims.
Super interested in this idea. The right numbers could allow for a great maxim that is literally unspammable
At least it seems that way in concept! |
Paying for ther potential according to who, you?
Dude, i don't even know who you are. Calm down and stop making it personal
if this was true riflemen would cost over 280mp, they have far more potential being able to upgrade 1-2 bars, LMG, 1-2 bazzokas (with snare). if ther cheaper Axis not aloud to AT blob, only allies allowed ok i get it.
Rifleman pay 300mp and 30 fuel for that potential, plus the muni cost, on top of their 280mp. Not sure how you're managing to forget that. 2x Bars are also more expensive than g43s. Zooks < shrecks.
OST is my second most played faction. If you accuse me of allied bias because you don't like 1 of my points about 1 squad on 1 axis faction, then you need to seriously relax. Where are you when i spend 5 pages telling allied noobs the Ostwind isn't OP against t34s? |
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It's curious to me that this discussion of their cost is entirely focusing on the g43 path of the fussies. Like they can also upgrade to a 2x shreck squad, and none of you "their too expensive" people seem to have any problem making them cheaper
I'm against anything that assists the return of shreck blobs. At least volks only had 1 per squad
But again, you're paying for potential. The fact you can choose to take the squad either way makes them worth more than volks IMO |
2v2 and 3v3.
1st game -> tried only pfusi -> got facerolled by maxim spam
2nd game -> tried combining then with volks -> got rolled over by penals (but it was better than the first game)
3rd game -> tommies in any range with cover do not give a single fuck
4th game -> finally was doing fine thanks to my mate who held up and got real good with my pfusies (blobbing is the most effective way to use them for no reason) and holy rngesus blessed me with a crashing plane getting 2 of my pfusies vetted 4 and 5 and i just ragequitted.
As a sidenote haven't played them against USF but against any form of brit or sov opening, pfusi is a no no.
Fussies help if a clown car shows up so its def not a complete no no against sovs. I snared one in my first game last night
But they're definitely not strong in the beginning, it the potential you're paying for. 2x shrecks on a 5 man squad is ferocious
Yes. I can also agree on making them 1CP like JLI for 300 mp as the penals of OKW.
Edit : I also suggested make them 260mp add mp cost to upgrade earlier on.
Yup I basically agreed. Just said Relic has never done something like that, iirc
Also good with a 1 cp idea as well
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Trying to play with Pfusi doctrines lately. My streak is currently -4.
In what game mode? I won 2 2v2s last night with breakthrough
Our own records aren't really evidence though, preview testing is the best way
Are you "make them cheaper early" people willing to make the upgrade more expensive in exchange?
Cause its spamming throughout the game im worried about, not whats gonna happen for the first 5 mins if we lower the price |
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