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Thread: Idea for Penals25 Mar 2016, 07:56 AM Jump back to quoted post25 Mar 2016, 01:08 AMTobis You can increase the dps by changing more than just accuracy, you know. Yes I know but the result would be pretty similar... Most factors one can change have a MID values like accuracy and since MID range for SVT is 16 increasing the FAR value does not help that much at ranges 20 and bellow where the flamer comes into play... That means that if a flamer Penal fights at range 20 it will see little benefit and it it fight at 16 and bellow it will see no benefit. Finally at range 20 and above it will have an entity not firing at all... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Idea for Penals24 Mar 2016, 23:59 PM Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2016, 23:53 PMFiresparks https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LOYMDi_XR7rILsk6HbAZqGihsk22t-45C_6NbQEP-m0/edit#gid=0 for a 270 mp unit, their dps is abysmal. Their mid-long ranger dps is even worst than the conscript. Not sure what your point is. Conscripts are mid to far using bolt action rifles, penals are mid to close using carbine/flamers. (They probably out DPS conscripts if they have a flamer in ranges 20 and bellow) As I said if they need a boost in DPS that should be to mid and not in far... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Idea for Penals24 Mar 2016, 23:42 PM delete pls In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Idea for Penals24 Mar 2016, 23:30 PM Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2016, 22:58 PMthedarkarmadillo Correct me if im wrong (and I very well might be) an increase to the far dps would also effect the less extreme ranges (not nearly as much but still make the dps less steep) if thats the case would would it do to their optimal range? (how much would it increase at 20m) or am I way off base here? penal_troops_svt_rifle_mp uses these numbers Close accuracy 69% mid accuracy 46% far accuracy 28.80% doubling far DPS as suggest by Katitof will have little affect in the range of 20...and the weapon it would actually be more accurate at far then it currently is at mid. Current DPS (0,10,20,30): penal_troops_svt_rifle_mp 5.997037037 3.94371897 1.725866342 1.014387985 Double accuracy Far: penal_troops_svt_rifle_mp 5.997037037 3.94371897 1.972786117 1.660315394 so the difference in range 20 is 14%... 20 is the range the flamer kicks in Penal SVT get good closer, a Penal squad only SVTs, has more DPS the riflemen allot closer than 20... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: OKW Command Panther veterancy is a bit broken24 Mar 2016, 22:56 PM Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2016, 18:55 PMthedarkarmadillo can the command panther abandon? if so could a brit cap it and turn it into a super command vehicle? (would the buffs stack?) The Ostheer Com. PZ4 turns into a normal PZ4 if it abandoned... not sure about Com. Panther In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Idea for Penals24 Mar 2016, 22:49 PM Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2016, 18:21 PMKatitof ... Go away from threads about units you have no slightest clue about. A whole LOT of units had some design, in which they have failed miserably or overlaped with another squads and they were changed. Penals are no exception here. Again, STOP talking about factions and units you know noting about, don't you have some axis defending to do somewhere? Stop acting like this forum is yours and you can decide who can post and who can not... From what you suggest you seem to have no clue how to use penals. Increasing far DPS is pretty pointless because it either makes flamer upgrade useless or make the buff rather pointless. A penal squad with a flamer upgrade fights better at range 20 and closer so a buff at range 35 will offer little to squad. But on the other hand your knowledge of the game mechanics is so poor that you though that the changes in hand held flamers was a nerf... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Idea for Penals24 Mar 2016, 18:12 PM Penal don't need double far DPS. They are designed mid to close and since they are using flamers will move to range 20 to fight or will lose the DPS of member due to flamer. They do need to have different veterancy bonuses and abilities. If they need mode DPs and as long as they have a flamer upgrade that should be at range 20 and not at range 35... Or a completely different role...probably of cheap cannon fodder... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: OKW Command Panther veterancy is a bit broken24 Mar 2016, 12:08 PM Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2016, 10:17 AMKatitof Aaaactually, 50 sight range alone makes it superior. But the unit is fine. So command Panther does not have 50 sight range... it has 35+20=55 It is also more expensive, gets worse vet bonuses and need more XP to vet. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: OKW Command Panther veterancy is a bit broken23 Mar 2016, 15:38 PM Jump back to quoted post23 Mar 2016, 14:36 PMMr.Smith Sure. If we want to proliferate aura units in the game, we could make it so that aura benefits from Veterancy. This means that the aura effect: - At Vet0, the effect of the aura could made lower than what it is now. - At Vet3, the effect of the aura should probably not exceed the bonuses at Vet0/Vet2. If you disagree, where would you draw the line for Vet3, according to the Command Aura benefits? Imo unit should benefit from veterancy according to their role. The change I would make would be to lower the Vet bonuses of aura units and starting bonuses. Then the player could use his command unit either defensively to support other units or risk the unit aggressively to vet it. The bonuses to aura imo should be for all levels of veternacy for the exact numbers I cant say for sure but for Panther it should be lower from the current ones at VET5. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: OKW Command Panther veterancy is a bit broken23 Mar 2016, 14:27 PM Jump back to quoted post23 Mar 2016, 10:00 AMMr.Smith TL;DR: The Command Panther should probably not gain any veterancy at all; adjust price & performance accordingly: 1. Why does the potency of the aura need to increase with veterancy? The potency of an aura de-facto increases over time already, as your army grows, anyway. .... (Edited since I was looking to wrong stats...) Command panther reaches vet 1 at 3120 (14% more)Xp while a Panther at 2730. Finally imo the Aura system should be benefit from experience. Aura units should start with lower bonuses that should progressive become better. Else this unis will difficult to balance since they will either be too strong early normal in late game or good early useless late. In the current system unit preservation for aura units that can be replaced serves little purpose and they can be used like normal units In: COH2 Balance