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that's weird, why would garrisoning the fighting position trigger the extended sight (to the same extent as the bunker).

The gamefiles list the exact same sight upgrade for both bunker and fighting position, thus this should not be happening.

Either the fighting position is weird/bugged or the bunker is.

The Fighting position is weird. Could be the base stats for the bunkers are different for LOS so when they get the sight upgrade they disproportional have an effect on their max LOS? They have the same base value for their LOS meaning its something wrong with the upgrade or intended.

Either way I don't think both should self spot unless garrisoned but then again the fighting position gets the free riflenade with it so maybe its fair, just god damn annoying the OST suppresses so fast and has such a wide AOE with it.

why would someone put an mg behind a shot blocker, the mg is guna block its own vision

Bunker spam is easily counted and its not free on the axis side

HMGs and small arms fire don't fire physical projectiles and as such and suppress without having to shoot over terrain. As I as suggesting in my post b4, ATGs have to fire a physical projectile that can be blocked by shot blockers - Think of red ball express where you cant shoot through the wooded areas and are forced to go down lanes meaning it can be hard to clear especially since it spots for itself.

Bunker spam is easily countered in 1s as you can move away and flank around it and your enemy loses field presence but it becomes a problem in larger formats, even in 2v2s it can be an issue all the way up to mid game as I also stated b4. It can come down to map design normally but most of the times can be bypassed as cover and LOS blockers are destroyed. Early game it can be hard to clear since you can locked down with s-mines meaning you are going to lose models while you clear. all in all mix all of that together and remove the penalty of field presence since its 2v2+ which means you cant push that point till you get a light/med tank that can take the damage.

I shouldn't have to explain this rly, the main problem is that it spots for itself and with that first volley suppress followed by the second volley pin and large AOE suppression means you can get pushed off super ezpz.

I understand its not free, for OST that muni is really important especially since your mid-early game AT is rather limited. OKW it can be easy as your units are rather cohesive with long range volks and close range Strums STGs meaning you have extra munit to spare in either mines or more bunkers.

The problem with the bunker doesn't rly arise -or at lest in my case- til late game when VPs become an essential point and where mortars and other indirect guns have obtained high vet meaning you "bleed like a stuffed pig". Introduce the idea of long range TDs and maybe even a pak43 or a Lefh and you have locked out the allied team.

Im not saying the bunker causes all of that but that late in the game and to have a hard position like that requires more than just a simple sturmpio squad to wipe like what you can do with the fighting position -b/c of its armor value-

I shouldn't have to prove to you people why self spotting emplacements with a long range and suppression is a problem not to mention cheap and effective with 1-2 burst vollyes to hold back an enemy. Not even the bofors or the 17pdr completely self spot.

Bullshit, both upgrades add the same sight (check the stats).

Could you check atleast one claim before posting?

you are wrong sir. Fighting position gets a slight increase but it does not match the OST/OKW bunker until you garrison it and therefor does not 'SelfSpot'.

Prove me wrong I guess?

I mean Relic had split teams for Coh and Dow3 way back when, I remember someone told me they had a whole floor that was cut off from the outside and filled with the DoW3 dev team.

Still a 2019 coh seems unlikely as it seems like they are still in the planning stage - getting years, research, art assets (model and such), concept arts-

Im happy they are moving on rather than sinking it into DoW3.
While I like dawn of war -and I like dow 2 more- I feel like the community is already moved on past dow3 as it simply didn't scratch the itch.

With relic getting over dow we wont see expansions and work go into an already dead product which is good for both us and Relic.





A question now would be what is their "unannonced project". DoW3 flopped so a Space Marine 2 game might be off the table. CoH3 is still a long way out so why even talk about it, from what we know its not getting here till 2020.