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Brummbar too potent against mediums

29 Sep 2019, 17:00 PM
#41
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jump backJump back to quoted post29 Sep 2019, 16:44 PMKatitof

How much damage KV-8 cannon deals again?

If you want you can test KV-8 vs PzIV in max mid and close range and come back with the results.
29 Sep 2019, 18:20 PM
#42
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I definitely wont mind losing penetration but not for 5 less fuel.

At least makes the projectile more consistent and makes it rotate faster with every vet. It AI role is not really cost efficient by the time it is out. At least in 2v2 i played
29 Sep 2019, 21:09 PM
#43
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I don't think is necessary. Nobody buys the brumbar for its AT but at its cost I think it's fine for it to be able to thunk a medium if it finds itself within the small area it fires.
29 Sep 2019, 21:29 PM
#44
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sucks when you buy a t76 to help kill a brummbar but the brummbar ends up doing more dmg and deflecting more and wins the battle. and t76 have to run from brummbar lol
29 Sep 2019, 22:54 PM
#45
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sucks when you buy a t76 to help kill a brummbar but the brummbar ends up doing more dmg and deflecting more and wins the battle. and t76 have to run from brummbar lol

Try utilizing the long range on the su76... That's what it's for. Even a 222 will counter an su76 if you use it poorly.
30 Sep 2019, 00:17 AM
#46
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Try utilizing the long range on the su76... That's what it's for. Even a 222 will counter an su76 if you use it poorly.


I think he is talking about T3476
30 Sep 2019, 00:44 AM
#47
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Best way to use a T-34/76 a brumbar is to ram it...
30 Sep 2019, 01:09 AM
#48
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I think he is talking about T3476

OK that makes a bit more sense I suppose
30 Sep 2019, 03:07 AM
#49
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The 76 is so fast, faster than brumbar canon, i rather not waste the ram unless no choice
30 Sep 2019, 04:18 AM
#50
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Bold words for someone that plays axis only... the T-34-76 can only run away if it begins accelerating before the shot is fired
30 Sep 2019, 13:22 PM
#51
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Don't derail guys. This has nothing to do with the topic in the slightest. But he means the UKF emplacement abiliity (green shield icon, weapons disabled for damage reduction)


To the subject:
I don't get why the Brummbär should have decent penetration. It's worth its price in AI capability, so why should it also have the chance to deal decent damage against mediums while it already has (according to someone posting earlier) deflection damage? This does not make a lot of sense.
Against lights, sure, but a medium should not be threatened to be damaged by normal shots.
However, I'd argue for high penetration for the bunker busting barrage because the Brummbär here behaves more like the AVRE/Sturmtiger.

Off topic: thanks for a reminder.

On topic:
Maybe because it's just too slow and same 2 T-34-76s can easily run around it, penetrating it with an ease, also considering there are Penals with AT satchels or Cons with their AT Snares or ZiSes and...more.
If it's a Brum you really don't want to use just one force against it, because, chances are, it's supported with AT units and infantry or with everything the enemy has, so yeah.
30 Sep 2019, 13:25 PM
#52
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Brummbar has good penetration because it fires a 150mm HE shell which historically could hull break tanks. Obviously this could not be implemented here, so relic went with high pen.

I don’t think it should be changed, the game has to retain some authenticity. It’s a WW2 game not a fantasy game.
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