wow what a coincidence
That pint went right over your head didn't it? It wasn't a "cons have it bad" it was "we literally know exact how much a snare costs on t0 infantry because we literally have a reference point"
But to answer your question, with the exception of Tommies sandbags cost long term combat power OR slot in a doctrine and oorah costs approximately exactly 2x the price of sprint.
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tagain 1 okw has it tier locked too 2 i think pfusi are the only call in that needs to wait for upgrades (why do para 2 lmg come with no tech cost ? while obers need to pay 170 fu to reach ? by ur logic this is way more investment)
Grens can turn into a double shreck squad? Grens can become 6 men with bonus vision? Fussies can upgrade to lmg?
They really aren't that similar, and again, what are you even trying to show? There's no point to this
When you stop pretending side-techs dont exist, you can start talking about delusions
do stv cons cost tech ? do guards dp cost tech ?
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tagain 1 okw has it tier locked too 2 i think pfusi are the only call in that needs to wait for upgrades (why do para 2 lmg come with no tech cost ? while obers need to pay 170 fu to reach ? by ur logic this is way more investment)
You can't compare the tech up of OKW that enables PF G43 upgrade with Bren or BAR side tech of UKF/USF. Absolutely not. As OKW you'll tech up anyway, there's no additional cost for you.
Also the comparison with paratroopers is very unfavorably for you, as they come (and still will come) later than the OKW teching.
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obv they don0't copare , taht's why they are doc unit, and like all doc unit they don0't have a side tech (dps,stv,ppsh,etc), btw there is an additional cost, it's just in the tech already 8okw has the most expensive tech
You can't compare the tech up of OKW that enables PF G43 upgrade with Bren or BAR side tech of UKF/USF. Absolutely not. As OKW you'll tech up anyway, there's no additional cost for you.
Also the comparison with paratroopers is very unfavorably for you, as they come (and still will come) later than the OKW teching.
para will come later than obers with lmg ?
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Grens can turn into a double shreck squad? Grens can become 6 men with bonus vision? Fussies can upgrade to lmg?
They really aren't that similar, and again, what are you even trying to show? There's no point to this
When you stop pretending side-techs dont exist, you can start talking about delusions
Using side tech as an argument without looking at starting fuel/mp and teching cost is pretty useless.
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obv they don0't copare , taht's why they are doc unit, and like all doc unit they don0't have a side tech (dps,stv,ppsh,etc), btw there is an additional cost, it's just in the tech already 8okw has the most expensive tech
para will come later than obers with lmg ?
Then you phrased it unclearly, I connected the teching to PFs, not Obersoldaten.
But no, there is no additional cost. OKW does not pay anything extra to give their mainline upgrades or faust/nade.
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Using side tech as an argument without looking at starting fuel/mp and teching cost is pretty useless.
Go ahead. Even with more starting fuel US still has to spend more for first full tier + weapon/nade upgrades than okw does for first full tier + weapon upgrades
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tagain 1 okw has it tier locked too 2 i think pfusi are the only call in that needs to wait for upgrades (why do para 2 lmg come with no tech cost ? while obers need to pay 170 fu to reach ? by ur logic this is way more investment)
do stv cons cost tech ? do guards dp cost tech ?
Dude, stop making me repeat myself. Just move on
I only talk about side-techs when you choose to compare fussies to squads that have side-techs. Thats on you for making a dumb comparison, im NOT saying doctrinal units should need side-techs....
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Go ahead. Even with more starting fuel US still has to spend more for first full tier + weapon/nade upgrades than okw does for first full tier + weapon upgrades
If full t1 rush was viable with OKW then that sentence would be really true but it isn't.
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If full t1 rush was viable with OKW then that sentence would be really true but it isn't.
Uh its still true for mechanized too bud
Rifleman upgrades + first full tier = 85 fuel (15+15+35+20)
Mechanized tier + truck = 60 fuel (15+45)
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then u didn't actually calc it, with their minus starting fuel and all upgrades unlocked okw has the most expensive full tech tree (even more expensive than ukf) and tank will come later than other factions unless they buy side techs (example ukf reach tanks rushing by 50 less fuel than okw with upgrades like bolster and weapon they even out, usf is similar )
Then you phrased it unclearly, I connected the teching to PFs, not Obersoldaten.
But no, there is no additional cost. OKW does not pay anything extra to give their mainline upgrades or faust/nade.
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fixed it for ya
Uh its still true for mechanized too bud
Rifleman upgrades + first full tier = 85 fuel (15+15+35+20)
Mechanized tier + truck = 75 fuel (15+45+15 form the starting fuel missing)
btw who gets smoke and double equip and who doesn't ?
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in the last post i compared to gren, u ignored it
Dude, stop making me repeat myself. Just move on
I only talk about side-techs when you choose to compare fussies to squads that have side-techs. Thats on you for making a dumb comparison, im NOT saying doctrinal units should need side-techs....
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fixed it for ya
btw who gets smoke and double equip and who doesn't ?
Who gets a 6th commander ability and who doesnt?
We can go back and forth all day if we keep listening to your off-topic ramblings, personally i have no interest in that
You're just trolling at this point i guess
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crews,pop cap,etc ? yes we can go back and forth all day, u only cherry pick what u want as always
Who gets a 6th commander ability and who doesnt?
We can go back and forth all day if we keep listening to your off-topic ramblings, personally i have no interest in that
btw to bring out KT u must be really desperate
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crews,pop cap,etc ? yes we can go back and forth all day, u only cherry pick what u want as always
btw to bring out KT u must be really desperate
Like i said, ur just trolling i guess
Must have nothing real to contribute
Move on, and troll someone else
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u contributed nothing in this whole thread, i posted stats, test and calc , u posted rambling that u can't prove or make sense as u always do same as the ostwind thread , where ur opinion is better than other quote
Like i said, just trolling i guess
Must have nothing real to contribute
"Or maybe I just don't care about your opinion anymore? Your posts are mostly filled with trolling anyway bud, not much else"
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u contributed nothing in this whole thread, i posted stats, test and calc , u posted rambling that u can't prove or make sense as u always do
So you spent this whole time arguing against nothing? That makes tons of sense
Your "tests" were nonsense, you compared them to rifleman, do we need to go over side techs again for you
Can you just agree to disagree? And stop talking about me? I dont see what the problem is...
"Or maybe I just don't care about your opinion anymore? Your posts are mostly filled with trolling anyway bud, not much else"
I said this to a guy who went on a racist rant in the shoutbox.....
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i compared them to cons , rifle and green i know u don't care but at least get thing right
So you spent this whole time arguing against nothing? That makes tons of sense
Your "tests" were nonsense, you compared them to rifleman, do we need to go over side techs again for you
Can you just agree to disagree? And stop talking about me? I dont see what the problem is...
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i compared them to cons , rifle and green i know u don't care but at least get thing right
And it was also explained why that was dumb... But you dont care either, why?
Because we disagree
I tried to leave the thread, you kept talking shit. Stop
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