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Wehr Mortar

15 Mar 2019, 16:17 PM
#1
avatar of DerKuhlmann

Posts: 465

Is literally the weakest mortar ingame.
You cant even use counterbarage, cause 30% range was changed to barage range.
15 Mar 2019, 16:24 PM
#2
avatar of Stug life

Posts: 4474

it's still one of the best mortar ingame, but yes counter barrage should have a slight range buff (10-15)
15 Mar 2019, 20:58 PM
#3
avatar of distrofio

Posts: 2358

Ost mortar should do manpower bleed rather than excel countering other mortars imo.
Ist true that ost mortar is defensively focused and allied offensively, hence flares.
Imo usf mortar is being a bit overprowered. It could be adjusted with longer smoke range and shorter autoattack to put it a specific role as the others in the same category do.
15 Mar 2019, 21:42 PM
#4
avatar of blvckdream

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It's the best mortar in COH2. Just check the stats.
15 Mar 2019, 21:44 PM
#5
avatar of Puppetmaster
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Posts: 871

Ost mortar is the best in the game all things considered (maybe only 2nd to 120mm thanks to its range, but that has many downsides).

An Ost mortar will frequently beat a soviet mortar even with flares up and synergises perfectly with the faction (Strong MG, typically long range infantry).

USF mortar is fairly comparable to the Ost, though I believe it has less range and isn't backed by as good of an MG (which also comes later)

Disclaimer: I'm fully aware certain people will chime in with some semi relevant stats to tell me how wrong I am but I actually play the game instead of living in some deluded world where everything is looked at in isolation when it suits them...
15 Mar 2019, 21:57 PM
#6
avatar of thedarkarmadillo

Posts: 5279

Wouldn't mind seeing counter battery get a wee buff, but that aside the 8cm is a solid mortar
15 Mar 2019, 21:58 PM
#7
avatar of ShadowLinkX37
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Not broken, don't fix. Best nondoc mortar.
15 Mar 2019, 22:55 PM
#8
avatar of mondeogaming1

Posts: 464

guys its the same as USF one with slightly longer range and more AOE its more than fine
16 Mar 2019, 08:47 AM
#9
avatar of Katitof

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Mortars were nomalized no that long ago.

It can't be worst, when there are at least 2 like it.
16 Mar 2019, 14:26 PM
#10
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Not broken, don't fix. Best nondoc mortar.


Wouldn't mind seeing counter battery get a wee buff, but that aside the 8cm is a solid mortar


Also, it's better to check here before spouting X unit is ACTUALLY the worst/best.

https://coh2db.com/stats/
16 Mar 2019, 15:45 PM
#11
avatar of SupremeStefan

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jump backJump back to quoted post16 Mar 2019, 08:47 AMKatitof
Mortars were nomalized no that long ago.

It can't be worst, when there are at least 2 like it.
This

One of the best patches in coh2 history
16 Mar 2019, 15:56 PM
#12
avatar of ShadowLinkX37
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Also, it's better to check here before spouting X unit is ACTUALLY the worst/best.

https://coh2db.com/stats/


I tend to ignore all stat sources that isn't the mod tools. I've never seen any source 100% up to date that isn't the mod tools, that site included.
16 Mar 2019, 16:06 PM
#13
avatar of elchino7
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I tend to ignore all stat sources that isn't the mod tools. I've never seen any source 100% up to date that isn't the mod tools, that site included.


Unless it's the latest latest changes, it "should" be up to date. Mortars did in fact changed but that has been quite some time ago.

Problem with mod tools is accessibility and readability. For specific things i also jump straight to the files (i always had the extractor tool).
16 Mar 2019, 16:17 PM
#14
avatar of LoopDloop

Posts: 3053

It's literally the best mortar

/thread
16 Mar 2019, 16:29 PM
#15
avatar of ShadowLinkX37
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Unless it's the latest latest changes, it "should" be up to date. Mortars did in fact changed but that has been quite some time ago.

Problem with mod tools is accessibility and readability. For specific things i also jump straight to the files (i always had the extractor tool).


Yeah it just doesn't include Dec 2018 patches (JLI, brummbar nerfs, etc).
16 Mar 2019, 21:47 PM
#16
avatar of IncendiaryRounds:)

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Just fix the counterbarrage or give a different ability.
17 Mar 2019, 18:22 PM
#17
avatar of TheGentlemenTroll

Posts: 1044 | Subs: 1

jump backJump back to quoted post16 Mar 2019, 08:47 AMKatitof
Mortars were nomalized no that long ago.

It can't be worst, when there are at least 2 like it.


Not to mention before that patch the ost mortar was completely op.
17 Mar 2019, 19:37 PM
#18
avatar of Outsider_Sidaroth

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Best Mortar but you call it weakest.
I can't even.
20 Mar 2019, 14:47 PM
#19
avatar of Balanced_Gamer

Posts: 783

Actually, OKW mortar LeiG18 is the weakest although has a bit more range, deals the weakest damage in game compared to every other mortar in game.

I posted this forum discussion https://community.companyofheroes.com/discussion/245809/okw-leig-18-mortar

You will find some extra details there

LEIG 18 does around 180-190 damage dead center on a squad while wehr mortar does around 230-240 damage. Huge difference right. Buff LEIG18 instead.

Wehr mortar is better than LeiG 18
20 Mar 2019, 22:02 PM
#20
avatar of thedarkarmadillo

Posts: 5279

Leig makes up for it in other ways like a quick battage
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