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The real question is: WHY YOU WANT TO DESTROY HOUSES AS AXIS?! Houses favors axis so much more than allies, most houses have only 4 windows at best meaning that the 6 and 5 man squads of allies are always firing with less power and the superior axis grenades make garrisons so dangerous for allies.
As axis you want to keep garrisons the longer you can.
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The real question is: WHY YOU WANT TO DESTROY HOUSES AS AXIS?! Houses favors axis so much more than allies, most houses have only 4 windows at best meaning that the 6 and 5 man squads of allies are always firing with less power and the superior axis grenades make garrisons so dangerous for allies.
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Also, the premise that Axis need it because some Allies have it is interesting. If that is the case, then both Soviets and USF should get non-doctrinal advanced medium tanks and heavy tanks.
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You totally miss the point that axis have no early to mid game real ability to destroy buildings or just garrisons like allies have. Brit infantry have some AP ammo that having building to building fights you will always lose to them, there are strategic buildings that are better that they are destroyed than left standing against you.
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I usually have Feuerstorm in my loadout as OKW or one of the commanders with the MHT in as Ost. I do sometimes have problems with Sim City or FHQ (especially since the nerf to the Walking Stuka) but not sure if a demo would really help. I'd much rather have better damage to buildings from LEIG's, Walking Stukas, or MHT's incendiary rounds, particularly against FHQ.
If I did get demos, I'd mostly use them in 1v1 on certain buildings like the ones that overlook the center VP on Crossroads, or some 2v2 maps like Rails that have buildings by the fuels that can be annoying if the other side gets them.
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Exactly and my original point isn't that we need demo, but it's little sad that neither axis faction can't just destroy a building they want without spending a lot of time from some random mortar or trying to burn it down.
Either increase the grenades they have to do more damage to buildings or something.
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Buff certain weapons against ungarriaoned buildings perhaps. Could help for destroying trenches and shit too then.
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relic pls add shotguns
Posts: 1954
Exactly and my original point isn't that we need demo, but it's little sad that neither axis faction can't just destroy a building they want without spending a lot of time from some random mortar or trying to burn it down.
Either increase the grenades they have to do more damage to buildings or something.
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I think my problem with this, and a lot of the other threads, is the premise that if any of the allied faction has something, then all axis need it. USF doesn't get non-doctrinal flamers, advanced medium tanks, a heavy tank, rocket arty (and even the one doctrinal was nerfed into uselessness), non-doc elite infantry, a super TD (doctrinal or not), etc, etc.
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I did a little testing and found that Pio's can burn down most buildings in 1 to 1 1/2 minutes. At some point, the building starts burning and the engineer doesn't have to attack it anymore. Buffing the flame damage to a building so that it only takes 45 seconds to one minute to start on fire would be fine. As a counter, make it so that if an engineer starts repairing before it burns down then the flames would get put out.
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Posts: 1954
Time to burn is definitely dependent on the building. Large or stone houses take much longer iirc unless there was a buff I missed
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Wehrmacht has 251 flamer and pioneer-flamer. And that is more than enough to destroy houses.
OKW has the perfect house-denying tool with incendiary grenades, but as for the destroying part you can only really rely on Stuka zu Fuss and Feuersturm doctrine, which can turn soviet FHQs (Urban defense doctrine) into a real problem for OKW on maps with many concrete buildings. However, that will get improved a lot soon when soviet FHQ will require 2 CPs.
USF and to a certain degree brits have horrible anti-garrison weapons as well, so I don't see the issue.
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Allies demo and satchel are usually used to destroy bunkers and OKW FHQ. So, give Allies bunkers that could stand small arm fires and FHQ?
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Like the USF fighting Pit?
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What part of “can withstand small arms” was missed there? It gets penned by small arms 100% more than the bunker and okw trucks do (actually 100% more than 0 is still 0 so that’s not even technically true but you get the point I hope).
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