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Can anyone explain why nerfing penals as hard as this, reducing received accuracy as well as removing flamethrowers AND oorah, whilst only giving them PTRS (which make them hardly usable against both infantry and tanks by the midgame) and sticky satchels (with a slow and easily interruptible throw), is a great change?
In general, this patch seems like a nerf fest, for the worse..
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Because they were overperforming like hell, before.
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Can anyone explain why nerfing penals as hard as this, reducing received accuracy as well as removing flamethrowers AND oorah, whilst only giving them PTRS (which make them hardly usable against both infantry and tanks by the midgame) and sticky satchels (with a slow and easily interruptible throw), is a great change? (and increased popcap cost to top it off)
T1 may be completely worthless now...PTRS alone don't and can't make up for it
In general, this patch seems like a nerf fest, for the worse..
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Can anyone explain why nerfing penals as hard as this, reducing received accuracy as well as removing flamethrowers AND oorah, whilst only giving them PTRS (which make them hardly usable against both infantry and tanks by the midgame) and sticky satchels (with a slow and easily interruptible throw), is a great change? (and increased popcap cost to top it off)
T1 may be completely worthless now...PTRS alone don't and can't make up for it
In general, this patch seems like a nerf fest, for the worse..
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In what way is the Stug-E overperforming atm? Is it against garrisons? Is it against clumped squads?
Remember that due to the HP/projectile nerfs the Stug-E is vulnerable as fuck to light vehicles and anti-tank guns. Just put some Guards in an M3A1, and your Stug-E problems are gone
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A combination of abusive meta (OP Penals, OP Light vehicles) made it impossible/unattractive to utilise the rest of the assets of T1 (Sniper/M3A1). With the changes T1 should feel less like a "Company of Penals".
Penal satchel is meant as a stop-gag solution for lights that try to circlestrafe your Zis gun. In the late-game you can combine the satchel with button.
For PTRS, you are supposed to use the fact that they have a high drop chance on Penals. That way you -might- be able to reclaim Penals for late-game use (after you used their PTRS to go through the early-game), pass their PTRS over to Conscripts.
Try to think of how you would adapt in the new meta.
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In my opinion the Brits are know even stronger than before at least against OKW. Because the Rifle Blob is now more spread than before, OKW Stukas and ISG are far less effective against them. And because of that your OKW infantry gets overrun easily by them. I played both sides in 3v3 and 4v4, and I have to say its far more easy now to play against OKW as a Brit at least in early to mid.
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Yep. Had few games against UKF as OKW, got absolutely destroyed.
This is one of those things that happen when you dont have the money for a full comprehensive testing.
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A combination of abusive meta (OP Penals, OP Light vehicles) made it impossible/unattractive to utilise the rest of the assets of T1 (Sniper/M3A1). With the changes T1 should feel less like a "Company of Penals".
Penal satchel is meant as a stop-gag solution for lights that try to circlestrafe your Zis gun. In the late-game you can combine the satchel with button.
For PTRS, you are supposed to use the fact that they have a high drop chance on Penals. That way you -might- be able to reclaim Penals for late-game use (after you used their PTRS to go through the early-game), pass their PTRS over to Conscripts.
Try to think of how you would adapt in the new meta.
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So the new Soviet meta is supposed to be:
Buy Penals
Upgrade to PTRS
Get Penals wiped so they drop their weapons
Pick up PTRS with Conscripts in late game
If, by some chance, this new meta doesn't work out, is there a backup plan for the Soviets besides increased maxim spam?
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If, by some chance, this new meta doesn't work out, is there a backup plan for the Soviets besides increased maxim spam?
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A combination of abusive meta (OP Penals, OP Light vehicles) made it impossible/unattractive to utilise the rest of the assets of T1 (Sniper/M3A1). With the changes T1 should feel less like a "Company of Penals".
Penal satchel is meant as a stop-gag solution for lights that try to circlestrafe your Zis gun. In the late-game you can combine the satchel with button.
For PTRS, you are supposed to use the fact that they have a high drop chance on Penals. That way you -might- be able to reclaim Penals for late-game use (after you used their PTRS to go through the early-game), pass their PTRS over to Conscripts.
Try to think of how you would adapt in the new meta.
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Can anyone explain why nerfing penals as hard as this, reducing received accuracy as well as removing flamethrowers AND oorah, whilst only giving them PTRS (which make them hardly usable against both infantry and tanks by the midgame) and sticky satchels (with a slow and easily interruptible throw), is a great change? (and increased popcap cost to top it off)
T1 may be completely worthless now...PTRS alone don't and can't make up for it
In general, this patch seems like a nerf fest, for the worse..
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Just a question? What happened to the removal of double brens and lmgs? And what happened to the ammo cost for SU-barrage?
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Mr.smith There is a glitch when a model in penal squad getting killed while threw a satchel (satchel already threw but the animation hadn't done yet) another squadmate will thrown a second one which mean double satchel
it's pretty rare to happen consider on if the armor focus on the one who threw or did they finish their motion yet or did the tank reverse back before get a second satchel but, in RNG game like this im pretty sure it will going to trigger people a lot
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