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MARCH 28th UPDATE

After over three months of countless posts of forum feedback, numerous surveys and tournaments, and over 10 mod iterations, the final changes put forward in the Winter Balance Preview are ready to be released into the live game.

A massive thank you goes out to community members Mr. Smith, Callum from GeneralsGentlemen, and Miragefla that put in countless hours to make the following balance changes possible. But of course, they did not do it alone. Community members such as Nacho, Cruzz, Le Saucisson MasquÃ© were instrumental in identifying and helping fix bugs, top players in the community were crucial for providing high level balance critique and of course the constant vigilance of the entire community that playtested the mod and provided ongoing feedback over these past few months made the iteration process possible. For all your efforts and dedication, we thank you.

As a refresher, the changes below were designed to target specific dominate meta in order eliminate default build orders and promoting strategic diversity. The scope of this patch was focused around two primary pillars: Light Vehicle Play and Infantry Scaling, as well as, two secondary areas of Dominate Meta: Soviet Guards and Penals, and the USF Mortar. Finally, a number of Quality of Life changes such as Squad Formations and âGhostingâ have been targeted to improve gameplay and feel.

GENERAL
Reinforcement Half Tracks/Transports

We wanted to make using these units less frustrating as a reinforcement platform and more reliable in order to better supplement Wehrmacht field presence.

Reinforcement Half-tracks now have shared veterancy from infantry squads and weapon teams
Load Times for all Half-tracks standardized to 2.
Given a handbrake ability to prevent unwanted movement
251 Half-track can now carry mortar teams

Shared Veterancy
The following unit types will contribute to shared veterancy to nearby officers/halftracks at the following rates:

5% mortars/indirect fire
10% HMGs
50% infantry
0% anything else

Snipers

We feel that the Sniperâs cloak ability is over performing, making them extremely difficult to counter with infantry. To address this issues we have made the following changes:

When firing a shot or using an offensive ability when not camouflaged, the unit will be unable to become camouflaged for 10 seconds
Snipers cannot cloak until out of combat for 3 seconds

Stealth Changes

To bring other stealth units in line with the cloaking changes made to Snipers, we have applied the following re-cloaking restrictions:
Anti-tank gun/Tank stealth changes

Tanks (e.g., JP4) and anti-tank guns cannot re-cloak until out of combat for 5.5 seconds

Neither type of unit can re-cloak within 10 seconds of having fired a shot

Non-sniper stealth infantry changes

Stealth (infiltration) infantry cannot re-cloak until out of combat for 4 seconds

Stealth infantry cannot re-cloak within 10 seconds of having used an offensive ability (e.g, grenades)

Veterancy Rates from Infantry-Based Anti-Tank

Anti-tank infantry squads were attaining veterancy disproportionately fast compared to anti-infantry squads. This was allowing blobs of infantry to scale versus armour too easily. This also allowed anti-tank-equipped squads to outpace dedicated anti-infantry squads and trade more efficiently than they should. With this change we aim to streamline the speed of veterancy gain or all squads.

Panzerschrecks/Bazookas/PIATs/PTRS/BOYS AT Rifles now award 3 times less experience when damaging a target. This change does not affect the British Sniper

M17 Quad

We wanted to tone down the performance of the Quad to be in-line with Light Tanks and other suppression platforms. In order to make infantry counters to this unit viable, the M17 can no longer suppress enemy squads on the move.

Moving Burst reduced from 1 to 0.5
Moving accuracy reduced from 0.4 to 0.25
Near rate of fire reduced from 1.24 to 1.15
Accuracy reduced from 0.5/0.3125/0.125 to 0.34/0.28/0.1
Near Cooldown modifier increased from 0.5 to 0.75
Cannot suppress units while moving.
Increased the chance for the Quad to take down an airplane (from 30 in 10000 to 10 in 100)
Munition cost from 120 to 100

SOVIETS
Penals

The combination of the raw amount of bonuses Penal Battalion squads receive with the power of their flamer upgrade made the squad capable of winning nearly all engagements vs infantry, in almost any situation, creating very limited avenues for counterplay. To address this, we are removing some of the raw power of Penal battalions. At the same time, we are giving Penal Battalions access to some anti-tank utility to give Soviet T1 some tactical versatility, which it previously lacked.

Popcap cost increased from 7 to 8
Penal Veterancy 3 received accuracy from 0.77 to 0.85
Veterancy 3 reduces cost of satchel charges from 45 munitions to 35 munitions.
No longer gains access to the Oorah ability.
No longer have access to the flamethrower upgrade
Now gain access to a (2x) PTRS upgrade

Guards

Guards were proving to over perform in ratio to their cost, appearing to supplement any strategy, thus, limiting variation in Soviet commanders.

Manpower cost increased from 330 to 360
Damage vs non-vehicles reduced from 27 to 20
Damage vs vehicles on penetration remains 40
Damage vs vehicles on deflection increases from 13 to 20
Guards can now re-buy lost items and equipment
Vet 2 accuracy bonus reduced from 1.3 to 1.14
Vet 2 received accuracy bonus decreased from 0.83 to 0.88
Vet 3 now grants a further 1.14 accuracy (1.3 total)
Vet 3 now received accuracy bonus increased from 0.77 to 0.75, total received accuracy at vet 3 has been reduced from 0.6391 to 0.66.

RGD-33 Fragmentation Grenade (Affects Partisans, but not Shocks)

AOE far damage reduced from 0.5 to 0.25 (Same as MK2)
Ready aim time increased from 0.125 to 0.625 (to match MK2 overall delay)
Munitions cost reduced from 45 to 35

T-70

We feel that the T-70âs high damage and AOE allowed it to wipe infantry too effectively, not giving the opposing player sufficient time to react, particularly if units are clumped in cover. The changes below will make it so that the T-70 loses its characteristic pinpoint accuracy on the move while maintaining its ability to flank teams weapons and push back infantry squads.

Manpower cost increased from 200 to 260
Health increased from 320 to 400
Crew repair removed
Reload speed increased from 1.8 - 2.2 to 2.1 - 2.5
AoE damage reduced from 1/0.35/0.05 to 0.8/0.35/0.15
Scatter Max increased from 1.7 to 2.5
Distance scatter offset reduced from 0.25 to 0.15 (this improves targeting)
Veterancy 3 decreases weapon scatter by 20% (accuracy vs infantry)
Coaxial MG cooldown decreased from 5 to 3
Coaxial MG cooldown multiplier changed from 0.5/1/1.5 to 0.75/1/1.25
Coaxial MG accuracy changed from 0.38/0.33/0.28 to 0.38/0.355/0.33
Coaxial MG reload duration reduced from 4-6 seconds to 3 seconds
T-70 Recon Mode now also allows the T-70 to capture territory with veterancy 1.
Capture Point ability removed.

WEHRMACHT
Medkits

To give Wehrmacht more staying power on the field, Medkits will now fully heal up a squad. We are also giving some QoL improvements to the ability.

Medkits duration increased from 10 seconds to 20 seconds (will now heal to full)
Cost reduced from 20 munitions to 15 munitions
Squads can now use the medkit ability on themselves
It is now possible to interrupt the casting of OST Medkits

Pioneers

We felt that pioneer damage output was under-performing and proving ineffective in combat.

Near accuracy increased from 0.403 to 0.463
Mid accuracy increased from 0.23 to 0.27
Population reduced from 6 to 5

Assault Grenadiers

Whilst they have an initial impact, their damage fall off, manpower bleed, grenades and veterancy scaling made them not scale well into the late game. Therefore, to improve their scalability, we have made the following changes:

Reinforce cost lowered from 28 to 26
Grenade Assault munitions cost lowered from 45 to 30.
Grenade Assault aim-time and ready-aim time reduced by half to allow faster throwing.
Squad leader armour reduced from 1.5 to 1.
Medical kits removed.
Veterancy 1 now Grants -10% received accuracy and reduces recharge on sprint by 25%.
Fixed an issue where interrupting the Assault Grenadier grenade ability early enough would immediately reset the cooldown

Panzer Grenadiers

Panzer Grenadiers are a strong unit but their timing means other factions already have veterancy on their infantry making it difficult for PGs to scale in veterancy vs their opponents.

Vet 1 now grants 0.84 received accuracy bonus
Vet 2 received accuracy bonus reduced from 0.71 to 0.84 (~0.71 total)

G43 Package (Also affects Stormtroopers but not Grenadiers)

Far aim time multiplayer reduced from 3.5 to 3. (Boosts long range DPS)
Now increases sight range by 20%
Fixed an issue with the G43 package interrogation ability that would not reveal all enemy units in a sufficiently-large map.
Elite Doctrine Stormtroopers now have access to Panzergrenadier G43s, and can upgrade G43âs in enemy territory

222 Scout Car

The 222 also wasnât scaling with veterancy as well as other light vehicles and suffered from inconsistent damage output preventing it from tracking infantry properly. We also felt that the auto-cannon was too reliant on AOE for damage. Another concern with the 222 was that it was too cheap relative to its performance,

Manpower cost increased from from 210 to 250
Fuel cost increased from 15 to 30
Veterancy requirements increased from 480/960/1920 to 720/1440/2880
Acceleration increased from 2.4 to 3
Spotting Scopes Sight bonus reduced from 2 to 1.4
Veterancy 1 improves received accuracy to 0.889
Veterancy 3 awards 20 extra HP

Autocannon

Autocannon accuracy from 0.06/0.04/0.02 to 0.05/0.04/0.03
Autocannon AOE Near damage reduced from 1 to 0.6
Autocannon Rate of fire multiplier from 1.4/1.2/1 to 1/1/1
Autocannon penetration increased from 35 to 40
Autocannon Mid range distance from 15 to 20

MG42

MG42 now properly tracks infantry
MG42 accuracy reduced from 0.6/0.425/0.25 to 0.44/0.385/0.275
MG42 accuracy increases with veterancy: +10%/+15%/+15%
MG42 range distance near from 10 to 0
MG42 0.75 accuracy modifier versus Snipers (down from 1.5).

Stug E

The Stug E was proving to be overly effective for its cost, especially as a call-in tank that could bypass tech requirements. Furthermore, Target Weak Point allowed the Stug E to have strong anti tank utility even though it's primarily an anti-infantry vehicle.

Manpower cost increased from 200 to 260
Health reduced from 540 to 480 (Now Destroyed in 3 ATG shots)
Reload from 4.8 to 6
Recharge time between successive Stug-E call-ins increased from 30 seconds to 60 seconds
Damage vs garrisons increased from 0.25 to 0.5
Fires a slow-moving projectile in a 20-degree arc
Weapon type changed from ballistic to big explosive (building damage readjusted)
AOE damage reduced from 1/0.15/0.05 to 0.75/0.35/0.15
AoE distance from 1/1.5/2.25 to 1.5/2.5/3
AOE Radius from 3 to 4
Scatter Max increased from 2.15 to 3
Scatter Angle increased from 5 to 5.5
Distance scatter ratio reduced from 1 to 0.075
Scatter offset turned to 0.

Target Weak Point (TWP)

TWP now applies Stuart Blind (5 seconds: no vision, guns disabled)
TWP damage reduced from 80 to 40
TWP Always penetrates

Puma

The Puma serves the role of a anti-vehicle and soft counter to tanks, however, the Target Weak Pointâs ability to stun even the heaviest of tanks made it over perform for its cost and mobility.
Target Weak Point (TWP)
* TWP now applies Stuart Blind (5 seconds: no vision, guns disabled)
* TWP Damage reduced from 120 to 60
* TWP always penetrates
* TWP munitions cost reduced from 40 to 35 to match other TWP variants

USF
M1919 Light Machine Guns

The ability to equip two M1919 LMGâs on a squad was resulting in over performing long range DPS for a squad as durable as Riflemen or as cheap as Rear Echelon.

Can no longer be double equipped via weapon racks.

Riflemen

To improve Wehrmacht's late game infantry scaling, USF Riflemen have received a slight reduction in their vet 3 bonus to their received accuracy.

Vet3 Received accuracy was changed from -20% to -15%

81mm Mortar

The USF Mortar barrage, rate of fire and veterancy bonuses have been causing this unit to overperform in most engagements. Furthermore, it has overshadowed the more expensive pack howitzer, lacking only range on its barrage until the pack howitzer hits veterancy 2.

Cost reduced from 260MP to 240MP
Range reduced from 80 to 65
AoE near distance reduced from 1 to 0.75 (both attack and barrage)
Reduced the rate of fire of the barrage ability to OST mortar levels
Pack-up time improved from 1.9 to 1.1
Set-up duration decreased from 1 to 0.5
Veterancy 0 now provides access to a Smoke Barrage ability with 65 range
Veterancy 1 reduced scatter bonus replaced by increase to Smoke Barrage range (80)
Removed certain accuracy bonuses at Vet3 that would further increase the accuracy of the mortar (over other mortars)

Vehicle Crews

Critical repair allowed USF vehicles to escape too easily after getting caught by a Panzerfaust or hitting a mine.

Veterancy requirements increased from 200/400/800 to 650/1300/2800
Crit Repair munitions cost increased from 10 to 25
Crit Repair Delay increased from 0 seconds to 4 seconds.

Stuart

We felt that the Stuart was over-performing in its role as an anti-infantry unit and as a strong light vehicle counter. Furthermore, its stun rounds allowed it to hunt down light vehicles that were designed to counter it. Thus, we have made the following changes to solidify its role as primarily an anti-light vehicle unit.

Manpower cost increased from 240 to 270
Main gun damage vs infantry set to -25%
Main gun penetration increased from 65/50/45 to 75/60/55
MG Accuracy from 0.6/0.45/0.25 to 0.4/0.3/0.16667 (Hull & Coaxial)
MG Incremental accuracy from 1.04 to 1 (Hull & Coaxial).
Stun rounds only disables weapons and sight. Does not affect movement.
Veterancy requirements reduced from 1170/2340/4680 to 870/1740/3480

M15 AA Half Track

Due to the changes in the opposing factions (most notably 222 changes and Luchs), we are adjusting the performance of M15 to bring it in line with the other light vehicles. This will also help prevent the Lieutenant tier from dominating over the Captain tier.

Manpower cost reduced from 350 to 310
Main gun damage vs infantry set to -50%
Vet requirements reduced from 1290/2580/5160 to 870/1740/3480
Maximum health increased by 40HP at Veterancy 3.
50 cal MG accuracy increased by 10%/15%/15% at vet levels 1-through-3 respectively
Veterancy 3 bonuses (accuracy/penetration) now apply to the main gun

OKW
Sturmpioneer

Given the changes to light vehicles, we felt that the risk vs reward for the Mechanised HQ as a tech choice would become too high due it not offering any type of healing. To compensate, Sturmpioneers have Medical Supplies available from the start.

Medical Supplies available at Vet 0
Medical Supplies munitions Cost reduced from 40 to 30
50% of the vet 3 construction bonus moved to vet 1

Panzerfausts

OKWâs heavy Panzerfaust cost made them excessively vulnerable to vehicles, especially when compounded with their other anti-tank options.

Volksgrenadier Panzerfaust Munitions cost reduced from 35 to 25
Requires an sWS being summoned into the field (as opposed to truck being set-up)

Raketenwerfer

Due to the changes made to Stealth, the Raketenwerfer has become overly vulnerable to infantry flanks. We feel that this leaves the performance of the Raketenwerfer somewhat lacking against vehicles.

Reduced the ready-aim-time of the raketenwerfer from 0.25-0.375 seconds to 0.125 seconds
Increased the fire-aim-time of the raketenwerfer from 0.125-0.25 seconds to 0.25-0.375 seconds

251 Flak Half Track

Weâve found that the 251 Half-Track was underperforming in its role as an anti-infantry unit due to its immobility and vulnerability to vehicle rushes, lack of infantry support, and inability to counter some of OKWâs primary threats such as MG lockdown.

Penetration increased from 20 to 30
Defensive Smoke no longer requires vet 1
Defensive Smoke munitions cost increased from 0 to 25
Vet 1 now reduces cost of Defensive Smoke from 25 to 10
Build-time from 45 to 60
Garrison Damage Multiplier increased from 0.25 to 0.35
Garrison Accuracy Multiplier increased from 0.4 to 0.5
AoE far reduced from 1 to 0.05 (only affects anti-garrison performance)
Minimum Range Removed
Handbrake ability added to prevent unwanted movement

Panzer 2 âLuchsâ

The following changes aim to make Luchs much more consistent in its damage output (reducing spikes, as well as removing several sources of inconsistency). These changes are intended to keep the unit a strong AI vehicle while giving opposing players enough time to react in an engagement.

Manpower cost reduced from 315 to 265
Fuel cost reduced from 65 to 60
AoE damage reduced from 1/1/1 to 0.6/0.5/0.1
AoE distance reduced from 1/1/1 to 1/0.9/0.25
Fixed an issue where a large portion of the shots would miss into the air
Accuracy reduced from 0.775/0.66/0.56 to 0.65/0.5/0.4
Vet2 accuracy reduced from 0.875/0.76/0.66 to 0.78/0.6/0.48
Moving accuracy at Vet0-Vet1 increased from 0.25 to 0.3
Moving accuracy at Vet2-Vet5 increased from 0.4 to 0.5
Luchs MG incremental accuracy from 1.04 to 1.
Incremental accuracy modifier reduced from 1.04 to 1
Veterancy requirements lowered from 1170/2340/4680/5850/7781 to 870/1740/3480/4350/5786
Garrison Damage Multiplier from 0.25 to 0.3
Garrison Accuracy Multiplier from 0.4 to 0.5
Veterancy 5 passive turned to a timed âSuppressive Fireâ ability.
Suppresses enemy squads
10 Munition cost
20 seconds duration
60 seconds cooldown
Reduces main gun damage by -50%

Puma

Aimed shot ability
Given the changes to the other factionsâ light vehicles, this ability would make it so that the Puma would also be the best vehicle for wiping infantry squads. To mitigate this, we have made the following changes:

Accuracy vs infantry suffers additional penalties while the Puma is moving.
Puma now suffers from the same accuracy penalties as OST sniper vs retreating squads

BRITISH
PIATâs

We feel that PIATâs are a primary influencer to why the British are experiencing a disparity in the early and late game anti-tank capability. PIATâs also pose a problem between game modes, skill levels and maps due to the fact they must be manually and precisely aimed. The following changes will make PIATs feel more consistent and easier to use at all skill levels and in all situations:

Gave PIAT homing projectile, if there is no obstruction between the PIAT and the target
PIATs have the same accuracy as bazookas for ranges between 0 and 30
Range reduced from 45 to 30
Damage reduced from 120/80 (penetrating hit/deflected hit) to 100/25
Munitions cost increased from 40 to 50
Fire-aim time reduced from 2.4 to 0.625 (reduces delay to fire)
Post firing aim time increased from 0 to 1.25
Reload time increased from 4.5 to 5.75 (same as bazooka)
Increased scatter, so that PIATs in indirect-fire mode are unreliable (especially when the user is suppressed)
Adjusted scatter offset, so that misses are centered around an immobile target

Royal Engineers

We have found that the Sapper squads simply scale too well due to the reduced reinforcement cost bonus they achieve at Vet 3.

Sapper Vet 3 reinforcement cost increased from 13MP to 20MP.
Can now only equip 1 Bren gun per squad

AEC

We found that the AECâs anti-infantry damage was too potent for a vehicle with so much anti-tank capability, yet its main gun was very inconsistent due to its comparatively large scatter. The AEC also suffered from extremely low armour causing it to be destroyed by S Mines and HMG teams too easily. Finally, we have made changes to the Treadbreaker ability that will make it considerably more consistent and easier to use.

Frontal Armour increased from 40 to 55
Medium crush replaced with light crush
Smoke cooldown reduced from 120 seconds to 40 seconds (puma cooldown is 38 secs)
Veterancy 3 now also awards +20% bonus to acceleration/deceleration (to match all other vehicles)
Main gun accuracy far increased from 0.025 to 0.03125
Range profile changed from 0/20/40 to 10/30/40
Moving accuracy increased from 0.5 to 0.6 (does not affect the Treadbreaker ability)
Turret rotation increased from 35 to 40
Main gun AoE reduced from 1/0.25/0.1 to 1/0.15/0.05 (to match Puma)
Max scatter increased from 1.7 to 9.5
Machine gun accuracy reduced from 0.7/0.6/0.46 to 0.48/0.47/0.46
MG incremental accuracy decreased from 1.04 to 1

Treadbreaker
Turret rotation in treadbreaker mode increased from 33 to 40 (makes it more reliable)

Added a projectile
Scatter changed from 7.5/1.7 to 6/6.5 (horizontal/vertical) -- this makes treadshot more reliable
Cone of fire increased from 5 to 10
Stationary accuracy increased by 20% from the main gun
Duration reduced 20 to 7

QUALITY OF LIFE CHANGES
Squad Formations & Clumping

We feel there is a disparity in how squads are assigned formations which is impacting squad performance. To address this problem we have implemented the following changes:
Give all squad members a roughly equal breathing space, regardless of the size of the squad (be it 2 members or 6 members)

Prevent unwanted clumping when given two opposing orders in quick succession (e.g., forward & backwards to avoid an AoE projectile).
Allow stealth-oriented squads to better utilize crater wherever available, without breaking their formation, but without clumping too much either
Change unwanted reaction behaviour which would cause squads to break formation and put them unnecessarily into danger.

Ghost Wire/Sand Bags

âGhost Wire/Sandbagsâ is the name for a common exploit in competitive play which allows partially completed fortifications to block movement. While unfinished fortifications could be destroyed by small arms, they took several seconds of focus fire to destroy what could be placed instantly. If players want to impede enemy movements with barbed wire and/or sandbags, they now have to fully complete constructing them.

Unfinished wire/sandbags/tank traps (aka ghostbags) will self-destruct automatically if there is no longer an infantry squad (owned by the same player) within 10 meters of the unfinished fortifications for 5 seconds.

Retreat Point De-Congestion

The base layout of several armies makes it so that retreating infantry units often get caught up in high-congestion areas. This, in particular, makes it difficult for nearby-stationed medics to reach injured soldiers, thus reducing the efficiency of healing.

Squads will halt their retreat within 10 meters from their designated retreat point
For UKF, squads will also use the weapon racks as forward retreat points
OKW forward retreat antennas can now be traversed by units

Base Structure Rotation

Soviets engineers and Werhmacht Pioneers will be able to select the rotation of base buildings to allow players to optimize paths, as well as create unique layouts!
General

Introduced improvements to the build order of AI-controlled armies (fix provided by Nachocheese)

Prioritize Vehicle now only affects the main gun of the affected tank, but not the MGs. Thus, vehicles with the Prioritize Vehicles ability active will continue to engage infantry with their MGs.
Base medics (OKW/Soviet/OST) will no longer chase after retreating units.
Troop transports are given the âHandbrakeâ ability. This ability disables the unit from moving or rotating to make the following tasks easier: (i) loading/unloading troops (ii) setting up as a forward reinforcement point.
Infantry units can target their snares at de-crewed/abandoned vehicles.
USF/UKF Medics are given an auto-heal toggle. This way, the player can control whether they wish these medics to go after wounded units or not (e.g., to avoid putting the medics in danger)
USF/UKF Medics will not chase after moving squads, to avoid unwanted long chases.
Anti-infantry partisans no longer display the PPSh icon, to help the player identify any picked-up weapons.
Pumaâs detection ability reverted to Vehicle Detection only to fit the unitâs role
M20 given a Hold Fire ability
M15 AA Half-track given a Attack ground ability
M15 AA Half-track given a Handbrake ability
The Raketenwerfer can now pick up medical supply drops from Sturmpioneers
OKW Flak Half-track given handbrake ability to prevent accidental movement
OKW Flak Half-track now displays the max range of the weapon when selected
Panzer 2 Luchs given access to the Prioritize Vehicles ability.
OKW Infrared searchlight halftrack given Handbrake ability
Universal Carrier is no longer a valid host for the Command Vehicle ability
AVRE given a âHold Fireâ command to make the bombard ability more responsive.
Due to interference with UKF teching, it will be no longer possible to call Gliders or Air Resupply operation in the base sector

MAP UPDATES
Lisores River

Wooden docks removed

Extra large vehicles no longer get blocked when crossing the Western bridge

Westwall

Improvements made to LoS and cutoff points

Hill 400

Fixed an issue that removed it from the map list

The following community-made maps have been removed from automatch and the map list

Market Ruins
Bombarded Refinery
RÃ¼stungswerke Essen

BUG FIXES

Fixed a bug where firing at non-infantry targets would suppress nearby infantry. Now suppression platforms will only deal AoE suppression if the primary target is an infantry model.

Fixed a bug where AI-controlled non-Conscript Soviet squads would, sometimes, get access to anti-tank grenades
Fixed an issue with multiple infantry-borne AT snares (e.g., Panzerfausts) sometimes failing to hit
their intended target (thanks to Cruzz and Le Saucisson MasquÃ© for helping identify the issues behind this).
Fixed an issue where team weapons dying when under the effects of suppression, would have their stats permanently diminished. This bug affected all MGs, mortars and the raketenwerfer (many thanks to Cruzz for identifying and fixing the bug).
Fixed an issue where certain vehicles would receive engine damage criticals when hit from non-snare weapons (OKW Panzer4/OKW Puma/Universal Carrier)
Fixed an issue where certain types of mines (most infamously, Teller mines) would trigger too early, thus failing to cause damage on enemy targets (Fix provided by NachoCheese)
Fixed an issue with players being able to double-buy certain upgrades using macro-based cheats.
Fixed an issue where static Howitzers (e.g., B4, ML-20, LeFH) would sometimes become temporarily unresponsive when given consecutive direction-facing commands.
Fixed an issue where Snipers would avoid engaging infantry units when the Sniper was cloaked without âhold fireâ on, even when issued the attack-move command
Fixed an issue where USF/UKF medic squads would, sometimes, stop healing nearby wounded troops.
Fixed an issue where the suppression -33% distance modifier was not affecting the following squads:
Airlanding officer (Light Gammon Bomb)
Stormtrooper (Stun grenade)
Obersoldaten (Bundle grenade)
Tank Hunter Infantry Sections (Heavy Gammon Bomb)
Fixed an issue where several squads would cost more manpower to reinforce when crewing a team weapon. This bug was also causing the affected squads to award more experience to the enemy when hit. This affects the following squads: Panzergrenadiers, Tommies, Fallschirmjaegers, Sturmpioneers and Obersoldaten
Fixed an issue where firing a Panzerfaust would fulfill the requirements for counter-barrage
Pak43/Pak40 production bulletin now works (previously did not affect pak43 production time as intended)
Fixed an issue where several Off-map abilities (mostly belonging to Soviets, OST, OKW) could still be targeted in the base sector
The change also affects Pathfinder artillery and Major artillery
Paratroopers can no longer be dropped into the enemy base sector.
Fixed an issue where a re-crewed vet 2 T-70 using recon mode was unable to toggle the ability off.
Fixed an issue where the Coaxial MG would not track targets properly
Fixed an issue where Soviet AT guns crews would open fire and break stealth (thus ruin ambushes)
Fixed an issue where camouflaged Soviet AT guns would refuse to open fire at intended targets, when stealthed
Fixed an issue where the M1-57mm gun would not benefit from Soviet AT ambush tactics.
Fixed an issue where the original crew of the M42 would sometimes drop prone on the ground, thus inhibiting movement
Fixed an issue where the 250 halftrack could not upgrade spotting scopes, if spotting scopes were available from the doctrine.
Fixed an issue where the AoE of the Brummbar âBunker Busterâ ability was lower than that of the main gun of the Brummbar.
Fixed an issue where âHold Fireâ would not work properly on the Mortar Halftrack
Fixed an issue where the USF mortar would become unresponsive when ordered to fire its smoke rounds
Fixed an issue with the M1 81mm Smoke barrage UI radius was not properly adjusting with range
Fixed an issue that USF mortars would not âmixâ with other types of mortars when double-click selecting all mortars in an area.
Fixed an issue where Paratrooper models had 1.5 popcap, as opposed to the intended 1 popcap per model.
Fixed an issue where Paratroopers would receive an involuntary move command when reinforcing near a beacon.
Fixed an issue where re-crewed M8 Scotts would lose access to their auto-attack when de-crewed when âHold Fireâ was active
Fixed an issue where the Sherman Bulldozer âHold Fireâ ability had no effect
Fixed an issue where the default crew of the USF anti-tank gun were easier to hit than other default crews (target size removed from 1.25 to 1)
Paratroopers can now rebuy dropped 30-cal LMGs
Added prioritise vehicles to Greyhound
Fixed an issue where captured M3 halftracks would display an incorrect healthbar
Fixed an issue where M8 Scott abilities would not trigger reliably
Fixed a bug where Rifleman AT grenades were unresponsive under certain conditions
Fixed an issue where âHold Fireâ would not work properly on the M21 Mortar Halftrack
Fixed an issue where the M21 Mortar Halftrack could fire at the enemy without having to rotate towards it
Fixed a bug where it was possible to make OKW Medical supplies have infinite duration
Fixed an issue where Raketenwerfer guns crews would sometime open fire and break stealth (thus ruin ambushes) despite user's preferences (prioritisation)
Fixed an issue where Raketenwerfer would sometimes not open fire from stealth at an intended target
Fixed an issue where the OKW FlakHT could setup on the move
Fixed an issue where the setup timer would reset (prolong) when given new attack commands
Fixed an issue where Luchs Hold Fire would not prevent the MG from opening fire.
Fixed an issue where Schu mines were not applying suppression
Fixed an issue where the Vet1 ability (Target Weak Point) on OKW Pak43 had no effect
Fixed an issue where the Sturmtiger would complete its reload instantly, if abandoned while reloading
Fixed an issue where Obersoldaten would not use their specific voice lines with the infrared-StGs
Fixed an issue where the MG34 did not use the correct lines for the Incendiary Armour Piercing rounds ability
Fixed a bug where the Puma would use the wrong type of projectile after finishing using HEAT shells (fix provided by Cruzz)
Fixed an issue where Recovery Sappers would still apply their Vet1 Cover Bonuses to picked up weapons. Now, the ability correctly only applies to Sapper Sten guns only.
Fixed an issue with certain squads breaking formation and leaving cover involuntarily (Sappers, Commandos, Officer).
Fixed an issue where the UKF âCommand Vehicleâ ability would become permanently unavailable when the previous vehicle would become abandoned.
Fixed an issue with UKF infantry gaining access to the wrong version of their intended Bren gun, when picking up a Bren gun from the ground.
Fixed an issue with Anvil âEarly Warningâ not giving sight over captured territory. Note that the scope of the ability has been restricted: the only territory points that the player gains access to are those that the player captured themselves (i.e., not allied-captured territory), just like the similar OKW Overwatch commander ability
Fixed an issue where the second mortar belonging to the mortar pit would deal reduced damage while barraging.
Fixed an issue where the damage Sexton Creeping Barrage had not been increased to match the AoE damage of the normal barrage ability.
Fixed an issue where UKF HEAT anti-tank grenades would, sometimes, fail to apply their snare.
Fixed an issue where Commando Ambush bonuses would apply inconsistently (sometimes none at all, other times permanently). The reworked Ambush requires commandos to be out-of-combat for 25 seconds, for 5 seconds of sprint & +50% accuracy on their Sten guns.
Fixed an issue where the UI would misinform the players about the nature of bonuses involved in Commando Ambush
Fixed a bug where Churchill (grenade) and AEC (treadbreaker) abilities would not trigger reliably
Fixed a bug where the Churchill could still move while priming and throwing a grenade
Fixed a bug where OST medic supplies would heal in-combat squads
Fixed an issue where OST Pioneers would announce âanti-personnelâ mines being built, when in fact building a Teller mine

UI FIXES

Vehicle minimap icon sizes have been scaled according to the vehicle type to help players better identify their forces on the battlefield.

Updated abandoned M1 81mm Portrait
Updated M1 81mm squad portraits for their respective factions.
Updated 120mm Mortar Shield Symbol to a different variant
DShka shield icon updated to the correct version for non-EFA armies.
Panzerfusilier G43 extra text should now state: G43s improve mid-short range effectiveness, moving accuracy and sight range.
Ranger Squad Extra Text now state: Effective versus infantry at medium range. Can be upgraded with Thompson SMGs.
Fixed description issues with the 222 when upgraded with the autocannon.
M5 UI text modified for better clarification.
Planting the Soviet demo charge will show a radius of explosion, like other similar abilities while planting it (similar to USF/UKF abilities)

Source: Update 28Th

Posts: 951

Rejoice! Best patch in a long while.

Great bug fixes as well--I hated it when AI soviet squads would snare my vehicle because they had Conscript models, and my Teller mines would fail to do anything to Churchills.

I like how some of the maps are being removed from automatch as well. In my opinion, Market Ruins, Bombarded Refinery, and Rüstungswerke Essen are pretty frustrating to play on.

Edit: Thanks for the heads up, capiqua!

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Hail to the patchmakers

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Aleluya

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22 Mar 2017, 06:54 AMcapiqua

Community members such as Nacho, Cruzz, Le Saucisson Masqué were instrumental in identifying and helping fix bugs, top players in the community were crucial for providing high level balance critique

let's hope this patch doesn't bring its own load of bugs and unbalance.
i suggest to everyone who is considering trying coh2 again after the patch to wait and see how it goes, no need to download a game if it's still broken.

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Panther and panzer4 buff when?

Posts: 485 | Subs: 1

22 Mar 2017, 08:42 AMspajn

Panther and panzer4 buff when?

make your own mod and if everyone agree it's fine, relic will add it in game

this one was limited to a few matters #scope

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Posts: 2272 | Subs: 1

Thx for the patch, gj.

I have a questionn about the Raketen.

Does it still fire into the ground as often as before?

Posts: 2458 | Subs: 1

Three maps removed from 1on1 matchpool while none are added? Bombarded Refinery and Market Ruins were decent maps too. Not sure why they are removed?

Hill400 added? I thought they removed that map because it´s such a pain to play on it.

Posts: 875 | Subs: 6

Thank god it's finally done. I think we started working on it at the end of October.

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22 Mar 2017, 09:11 AMTheMachine

Thank god it's finally done. I think we started working on it at the end of October.

There are still ways to go in terms of balance.

Posts: 611

22 Mar 2017, 09:09 AMblvckdream

Three maps removed from 1on1 matchpool while none are added? Bombarded Refinery and Market Ruins were decent maps too. Not sure why they are removed?

They were not good maps for Ost, but they probably could of given them some time with new patch to see how the new changes played out, squad spacing and allied nerfs etc.

22 Mar 2017, 09:24 AMTiger Baron

There are still ways to go in terms of balance.

That is an understatement and a lot of cheese remains. Hopefully this patch goes well and relic do another and quickly.

Posts: 2066

Finally

Thanks to the mod team for their great work.

Posts: 935

I bet there will be some ninja bugs and ninja changes

Posts: 311

Nice patch. Thanks for the patchers.
But we will need to wait another year or more to get fixes on the UP P4, UP Panther, OP Comet and OP Cromwell. And infantry crushing.

Posts: 1094 | Subs: 20

Hope the implementation will go smoothly...

Posts: 23

I also want to thank the community members who made this patch happen. Thank you!

Happy to come back and play some games to see if ostheer is viable again, but as Leo stated I'm affraid german armor won't stand a chance against british armor in combination with improved piat infantry.

Posts: 96

Thank your for teh work!

Posts: 181

GJ, This is the electrical shock needed to revive the 1v1 gamemode.

222 Scout Car
Manpower cost increased from from 210 to 250
Fuel cost increased from 15 to 30

Autocannon
Autocannon accuracy from 0.06/0.04/0.02 to 0.05/0.04/0.03
Autocannon AOE Near damage reduced from 1 to 0.6
Autocannon Rate of fire multiplier from 1.4/1.2/1 to 1/1/1
Autocannon penetration increased from 35 to 40

MG42

MG42 accuracy reduced from 0.6/0.425/0.25 to 0.44/0.385/0.275
MG42 0.75 accuracy modifier versus Snipers (down from 1.5).

lol, #MV game

Other than that, mostly decent and much neeeded changes.

Posts: 609

22 Mar 2017, 12:11 PMJackDickolson

GJ, This is the electrical shock needed to revive the 1v1 gamemode.

lol, #MV game

Other than that, mostly decent and much neeeded changes.

It might be worth mentioning that before the MG didn't really work at all plus it's counters have also been nerfed

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