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13 Jan 2017, 15:53 PM
#401
avatar of elchino7
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Huh. Never knew that. It always seems like the two gunners are a lot harder to hit from the front, although they do die from grenades, so I shoulda guessed.


Support weapons gunners have less priority, so they tend to die last.
13 Jan 2017, 16:29 PM
#402
avatar of LimaOscarMike

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hey smith this is somekind some feedback thread right ? can i post some idea here ?

what do you think on Asgren Passive sprint from commando ? does it ok or it will break the balanced because how fast it come and how less it cost ?
13 Jan 2017, 19:04 PM
#403
avatar of Mr.Smith

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hey smith this is somekind some feedback thread right ? can i post some idea here ?

what do you think on Asgren Passive sprint from commando ? does it ok or it will break the balanced because how fast it come and how less it cost ?


In WBP, commando sprint has a 25-out-of-combat requirement, after ambush has been bugfixed (long story, but we can't adjust that value).

In any case, though, passive, involuntary sprint on a short-range unit is more of a curse than a blessing.

Why? Every time you manage to flank something, they usually pack up and /retreat. The thing you usually do in these cases is you "see off" the retreating squad with your squad, trying to keep the enemy squad as close to you as they retreat.

However, if your squad is sprinting, they aren't shooting, and if you aren't shooting, you aren't dealing any damage. Thus, if you pull a successful flank, and your sprint kicks in, that basically amounts to nothing.

In short, involuntary sprint does more harm than good to short-range units.
14 Jan 2017, 00:59 AM
#404
avatar of LimaOscarMike

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In WBP, commando sprint has a 25-out-of-combat requirement, after ambush has been bugfixed (long story, but we can't adjust that value).

In any case, though, passive, involuntary sprint on a short-range unit is more of a curse than a blessing.

Why? Every time you manage to flank something, they usually pack up and /retreat. The thing you usually do in these cases is you "see off" the retreating squad with your squad, trying to keep the enemy squad as close to you as they retreat.

However, if your squad is sprinting, they aren't shooting, and if you aren't shooting, you aren't dealing any damage. Thus, if you pull a successful flank, and your sprint kicks in, that basically amounts to nothing.

In short, involuntary sprint does more harm than good to short-range units.

Oh that pretty clear tho.i've just though it actually help from the way i see shock troop have a hard time getting close since many unit get medium high DPS weapons
14 Jan 2017, 04:55 AM
#405
avatar of skemshead

Posts: 611

Look, I'm a huge, huge proponent of all the bug fixes, quality of life changes, and changes that affect all factions and game modes (like the nades thing.) Those functional issues and inconsistencies being fixed are an overwhelming boon to the game.

The opportunity to test a mod in an official sense is an incredible opportunity. As much as I respect their efforts, I fear they are squandering the bulk of their potential.


+1.

It is funny how distracting an issue like ptrs penals can completely overshadow all the other incredible improvements that have been made. Changes to issues/units like ghost wire, usf morter, t70, stuart, unit spacing, double lmg etc etc will have a far greater impact than sov t1 changes( I hope ).

So, time to focus on the positive

Edit : However, until maxim spam and partisan meta are nerfed into the ground any attempt at balance is a futile waste of time.
14 Jan 2017, 10:46 AM
#406
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#footman


Will I ever be rid of this curse :P
14 Jan 2017, 15:05 PM
#407
avatar of ZombiFrancis

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Only if you'd rather be sailing.
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