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6 Dec 2015, 18:02 PM
#61
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If someone can interpret how AoE is calculated then

Radius:
-K: 6
-PW: 6
-C: 4

AoE damage multiplier:
-K: 1/0.35/0.1
-PW: 1/0.5/0.3
-C:1/0.5/0.15


This pretty much means that PW have most deadly AoE of them all on top of alpha strike damage and calliope have least deadly one.

Pwerfer at the far end of its AoE does 24 dmg while katy does 8 and calli 12 but have 50% lower radius.
6 Dec 2015, 18:07 PM
#62
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jump backJump back to quoted post6 Dec 2015, 17:49 PMKhan


Wot? Link me to ONE patch note where Stuka was nerfed. Aside from a veterancy change that I don't remember, the Stuka is the same as it was at release. Pls.


Stuka got some scatter factor after Brit release, they no longer shoot with pin-point accuracy.
6 Dec 2015, 18:17 PM
#63
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Calliope has 160 / 80 armor and 640 health.
Giving the fact it costs 140 fuel and is the "show horse" of a commander it deserves to be the best on map arty.

Getting those things out means your opponent has less fuel for Sherman & Jackson. That means free reign for panthers & Tigers.

It has to drive close since the range is limited. If you can dodge Kattyushas, Panzerwerfers & Stukas you can also dodge Calliopes.

Unit is fine.
6 Dec 2015, 18:20 PM
#64
avatar of Fuzz
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i knew it when it was announced

one of the best things about coh2 was that arty died in one shot like it should


thx to the forum cryers to again killing my game experience

#PrayForDonnie
6 Dec 2015, 18:21 PM
#65
avatar of Shell_yeah

Posts: 258

I catched this thing off guard couple of times with a tank, but it still was managed to return to base with 25-50% hp :D

hp from 640 to 480 would be ok imo
6 Dec 2015, 18:47 PM
#66
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So this is one of them "Axis can do it but Allies can't" things huh?

Like, really?
6 Dec 2015, 18:54 PM
#67
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Thanks God that Genius no longer a STRATEGIST.


Maybe he should be. He can kill 30 models in 1 barrage :luvDerp:


The calliope is fine. And cost a lot of ressource
6 Dec 2015, 18:55 PM
#68
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jump backJump back to quoted post6 Dec 2015, 12:14 PMShanka


More salt please :snfPeter:

Camping behind USF at guns :snfPeter:

Werfer is 10x better than calliope but hey, let's keep crying :snfPeter:



What world are you living in? The Caliope is better against infantry than werfer. AND GUESS WHAT?? IT CAN KILL TANKS AT MEDIUM RANGE. I've been having fun killing KTs with this beast. The only fix I think Caliope needs is make it so people cant decrew it.
6 Dec 2015, 19:02 PM
#69
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Unit is fine.

Mostly. Agree. Too soon to say if it's okay overall.

It has to drive close since the range is limited. If you can dodge Kattyushas, Panzerwerfers & Stukas you can also dodge Calliopes.


Not really. It's easier to dodge:

Katyusha (specially after first salvo) > Stuka >>>>> Calliope 2nd/3rd barrage > Calliope/PW first barrage


AND GUESS WHAT?? IT CAN KILL TANKS AT MEDIUM RANGE. I've been having fun killing KTs with this beast. The only fix I think Caliope needs is make it so people cant decrew it.


At 50 penetration, 80dmg and just 20 at deflect. Hmmm i doubt it.
6 Dec 2015, 19:03 PM
#70
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Wrong, I had a Panther shoot one in the rear armor twice directly from behind and still didn't die.


And you are correct because the Calliope has 480 health (3 direct regular tank, AT-gun shots) since it costs 140 fuel. This is just something people will get used to and realise.
6 Dec 2015, 19:13 PM
#71
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it has no reason for having more than 320 hp
6 Dec 2015, 19:15 PM
#72
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it has no reason for having more than 320 hp



make it 85 to 100 fuel like everyone elses rocket arty then, i doubt people would rather deal with that

and it has 640 hp FG
6 Dec 2015, 19:16 PM
#73
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Pwerfer costs 80 fuel, fucks anything it shoots at including buildings with 100% damage(LOL), and if it doesn't fuck it hard enough it supresses or pins it.

But a 140 fuel call in USF katyusha?

reduce health to 100, make barrage cost 100 ammo and make it drive slower when it has reloaded. Balanced. Also give it a 50% to detonate rockets before they fire, making the calliope prone for self destruction, because RNG = fun and esports

:hansSTUG:For the fatherland!:hansSTUG:
6 Dec 2015, 19:20 PM
#74
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Rockets:
-Calliope fires 22/24 rockets on 3 barrages. First barrage is like 10, second is like 8/10 and the last one is just 4.
-Katyusha fires on 4 salvos 4 rockets each
-PW fires 10/12 rockets on 1 salvo with suppression. 16 if using arty officer.

Against Garrison
-Katyusha deals 25%
-PW deals 100%
-Calliope deals 25%

-Calliope has a modifier to deal 75% against production buildings.

If someone can interpret how AoE is calculated then

Radius:
-K: 6
-PW: 6
-C: 4

AoE damage multiplier:
-K: 1/0.35/0.1
-PW: 1/0.5/0.3
-C:1/0.5/0.15

Area distance:
-All: 4.5/3.5/1.5

All do 25% dmg to friendlies



Thanks, that explain all, even dont need player card :D.
6 Dec 2015, 19:20 PM
#75
avatar of FG127820

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make it 85 to 100 fuel like everyone elses rocket arty then, i doubt people would rather deal with that

and it has 640 hp FG


Did they ninja buff the health? On stream Brad showed and explicitly said it dies in 3 shots, not 4. Did you find this in the files?
6 Dec 2015, 19:22 PM
#76
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Did they ninja buff the health? On stream Brad showed and explicitly said it dies in 3 shots, not 4. Did you find this in the files?


yes in the files.

Either a ninja buff or an epic fail. Considering brad also said the goliath did 200 damage when it does 400, I wouldnt put it past them to be an epic fail
6 Dec 2015, 19:26 PM
#77
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I love me the OpKW gravy train kappa
6 Dec 2015, 19:48 PM
#78
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Katitof should really play the game or actually check unit stats.
6 Dec 2015, 20:00 PM
#79
avatar of Intelligence209

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222 can kill it.

It looks like a tank, but its not a tank.


No doubt the most stupid reply iv seen from you
6 Dec 2015, 20:04 PM
#80
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OP is trolling with the price suggestion right? But I think it's fine, I just think it needs to be louder, I can never hear it firing.
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